La Vuelta 2023: Stage 1: Barcelona to Barcelona - 14.8km, Team time trial ***Spoilers***

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  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    It's one thing dealing with rain. Nothing organisers can do about it. They could however of made sure everyone finishes in ruddy daylight
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Jumbo lose 10 secs to ineos
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,572
    JimD666 said:

    It's one thing dealing with rain. Nothing organisers can do about it. They could however of made sure everyone finishes in ruddy daylight

    The Vuelta likes an evening TTT.
    They do have street lights in Barcelona!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Pross said:

    Sounds like a farce (I’m watching the athletics which had its own farce in the relay as always).

    I was listening to the football.

    "We. Are. Top of the league, We are top the league"
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,164
    Is it really as dark as it looks?
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    Dorset_Boy said:

    JimD666 said:

    It's one thing dealing with rain. Nothing organisers can do about it. They could however of made sure everyone finishes in ruddy daylight

    The Vuelta likes an evening TTT.
    They do have street lights in Barcelona!
    Dry and dark (gloomy would probably be a better description) is one thing. Wet and dark is a whole different kettle of fish
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    kingstongraham said:

    Is it really as dark as it looks?

    TV exaggerated
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    It is bad light though
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,164
    mididoctors said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Is it really as dark as it looks?

    TV exaggerated
    In the tennis it makes it look lighter than it really is.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Movistar have an advantage, being familiar with the gloomy, rainy Spanish summertime
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    kingstongraham said:

    mididoctors said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Is it really as dark as it looks?

    TV exaggerated
    In the tennis it makes it look lighter than it really is.
    Lighting strUght into camera lowers the exposure no ?
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    So dsm .... I nearly picked them as well ..should have gone with my gut instinct 😉
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Remco likes a moan
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Evenepoel isn't happy. I think he'll cheer up when he sees the other times.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    Scratch my complaints. Remco is throwing his teddies out the cot. Makes it worthwhile 🤣
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
    mididoctors said:

    Remco likes a moan

    With some justification. It was ridiculous starting it this late. (Which was the subject of his ire).
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    Not great for INEOS. De Plus dnf'd after his crash.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    edited August 2023
    andyp said:

    mididoctors said:

    Remco likes a moan

    With some justification. It was ridiculous starting it this late. (Which was the subject of his ire).
    It wasn't ridiculous at all, on a normal August day in Barcelona. It's just today was an unusual exception. Sunset was just after the race finished..........not that we could tell.

    Anyhow, I'd be more worried if Remco wasn't moaning.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    Now Jayco have a proper reason to moan.

    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,198
    JimD666 said:

    Scratch my complaints. Remco is throwing his teddies out the cot. Makes it worthwhile 🤣

    Honestly he's not....He's actually talked sense.....
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,232
    edited August 2023
    Race organiser boss was probably grabbing his crotch and kissing riders on the mouth, full Spanish stylee 😉, rather than going oh yeah weather problems a-comin' we need to get organised here.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
    blazing_saddles said:

    andyp said:

    mididoctors said:

    Remco likes a moan

    With some justification. It was ridiculous starting it this late. (Which was the subject of his ire).
    It wasn't ridiculous at all, on a normal August day in Barcelona. It's just today was an unusual exception. Sunset was just after the race finished..........not that we could tell.

    Anyhow, I'd be more worried if Remco wasn't moaning.
    Except it wasn't sunny, it was almost pitch black for the final teams. Conditions were dangerous and I think the riders have every right to be upset.

    Any sensible organisation would've had a contingency plan in place for bad weather, but this is the Vuelta organisation so it comes as no surprise.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
  • stage_hunter
    stage_hunter Posts: 317
    JimD666 said:

    Not great for INEOS. De Plus dnf'd after his crash.

    That’s a huge blow.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    edited August 2023
    andyp said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    andyp said:

    mididoctors said:

    Remco likes a moan

    With some justification. It was ridiculous starting it this late. (Which was the subject of his ire).
    It wasn't ridiculous at all, on a normal August day in Barcelona. It's just today was an unusual exception. Sunset was just after the race finished..........not that we could tell.

    Anyhow, I'd be more worried if Remco wasn't moaning.
    Except it wasn't sunny, it was almost pitch black for the final teams. Conditions were dangerous and I think the riders have every right to be upset.

    Any sensible organisation would've had a contingency plan in place for bad weather, but this is the Vuelta organisation so it comes as no surprise.
    Ok. And what is that contingency plan?
    You can’t just reschedule road closures in a major city at the drop of a hat.
    Policing arrangements, media coverage etc etc

    It’s been 40C in Barcelona up until today.
    So if conventional wisdom says have it earlier, there’s an equally big weather problem.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
    blazing_saddles said:

    andyp said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    andyp said:

    mididoctors said:

    Remco likes a moan

    With some justification. It was ridiculous starting it this late. (Which was the subject of his ire).
    It wasn't ridiculous at all, on a normal August day in Barcelona. It's just today was an unusual exception. Sunset was just after the race finished..........not that we could tell.

    Anyhow, I'd be more worried if Remco wasn't moaning.
    Except it wasn't sunny, it was almost pitch black for the final teams. Conditions were dangerous and I think the riders have every right to be upset.

    Any sensible organisation would've had a contingency plan in place for bad weather, but this is the Vuelta organisation so it comes as no surprise.
    Ok. And what is that contingency plan?
    You can’t just reschedule road closures in a major city at the drop of a hat.
    Policing arrangements, media coverage etc etc

    It’s been 40C in Barcelona up until today.
    So if conventional wisdom says have it earlier, there’s an equally big weather problem.
    If the Giro Donne organisers can ensure rider safety is paramount, then so can the Vuelta organisers.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    andyp said:

    As I mentioned I didn’t watch the race but I suspect that photo has had some post-production editing done for artistic effect.
  • roscoe
    roscoe Posts: 526
    Gutted that DePlus is out already.

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