Two High-Spec Carbon Road Bikes Available (L/XL) - New Builds, Rock-Bottom Prices, Choice of Wheels
One is a Vitus Vitesse Evo and the other is a Viper RC2DB. The former is a brand that has been owned by Wiggle for a number of years and the latter is a Belgian brand that Wiggle carried for a few years. The framesets were bought new from Wiggle in 2021 as surplus stock and I have turned these into bikes that I would be happy to own for myself, were it not for the fact that they're too big and I already have too many bikes. Both are 22-speed mechanical with disc brakes and thru-axle wheels.
These are listed elsewhere, but I thought I would mention them on this forum - please note that prices are FIRM, but there may be additional items that I can throw into the mix, depending on what a potential buyer needs.
Either bike would suit someone who is simply looking for the best value, or a rider who is just moving up from cycling as a means of transport to cycling as a fitness/sporting pursuit.
The bikes are in North London - I prefer to sell in person so that I can make sure the fit is correct and any potential buyer will be happy with their purchase. There are plenty of contact point options available (saddle, seatpost, stem, bars, bar tape) and there are several different wheel sets available for each bike each at different price points:
Basic Shimano RS170 Alloy training/winter wheels (new)
Reynolds/Shimano 38/50mm carbon - not a matching pair, but with decals removed no-one will notice (very lightly used)
Prime 50mm carbon (new)
3TTT/Giant SL1 60mm carbon - not a matching pair, but very similar even with decals (new)
Total price ranges from £1099 to £1499
Full details and pictures can be found in the links below. Any questions, please don't hesitate to get in touch. A brief summary is as follows:
1) Vitus Vitesse Evo 2020 57cm carbon frame and fork in size L
Original spec for this frame/bike, is here:
http://archivevitusbikes.com/products/vitesse-evo-crs-disc-brake-road-bike/
The frame and forks and wheels are new, as are the cassette, chain, brake rotors, head set, BB and more. Other components are carefully chosen and checked used parts in excellent condition. The groupset is based around 6800 Shimano Ultegra 11s, but I don’t spec any bikes with Shimano chainsets, due to the cost of replacement chainrings and the possibility of cracking. Parts have been chosen to best suit taller riders. I also use hybrid hydraulic disc brakes rather than full hydraulic for simplicity and ease of use (Brake power is excellent and more than enough for use on the road). The relevant dimensions to help you assess the sizing can be found via the link above, but I have measured as follows:
Head Tube 18cm
Seat Tube 55cm
Top Tube Actual/Virtual 56/58cm
Standover Height 79cm (at least 33” inside leg?)
2) Viper RC2 DB Carbon Road Bike, XL 58cm
For sale is this newly built-up Viper RC2 DB 2021 frame in black in size L. This is a true lightweight “superbike” without the expected high price tag. This bike is more than a match for a bike costing more than double the price and you'd be hard-pressed to find something of this quality at this price secondhand, particularly considering that all the crucial parts of this bike are brand new
There isn’t a lot of info available on the web about this frame and the associated company. However, it is based in Belgium and, like almost all carbon frame/bike companies, the actual manufacturing takes place in Taiwan. The (new) frame was sourced through Wiggle, which sold Viper frames for a number of years in the UK (you can still find the details on the website if you search for it).
Looking at the frame compared to the other carbon road bike that I have built up for sale, it is certainly a taller frame, so probably most suitable for a slightly taller rider - certainly up to 6’6” and it can be built up into a slightly lighter bike than the comparable Vitus also for sale. The rear seat stays are very thin, which provides increased compliance for a more comfortable ride. Frame tube profiles are otherwise very similar to current standards. Groupset similar to the Vitus - based around Shimano Ultegra 6800 11s. The frame and forks and wheels are new. The chain and chainrings are new, as are the brake rotors, headset, BB and more. The relevant dimensions have been measured as follows:
Head Tube 20cm
Seat Tube 60cm
Top Tube Actual/Virtual 57/59cm
Standover Height 82cm (at least 34” inside leg?)
Link to pictures and more info can be found here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1yYG9rpnO-kYjpj7TTmKqsGpW0Gw5csIn?usp=drive_link
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bfR4ch1jvvJ8X6neIVasD_LNvwyd6oSD?usp=drive_link
Any questions, just drop me a message or reply to this thread.
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Good you've put superbike in quotation marks.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Hmmm.. Is that some sarcasm I detect?
Show me something comparable (and essentially new) for that price?
And tell me how much performance difference you're expecting to get from the extra £££ that you'd spend on a superbike (without quotation marks)?0 -
Note that bike prices have changed slightly - from £1,099 with shallow Shimano alloy training wheels to £1,499 with most expensive deep carbon wheels; there's a little bit of wiggle room to make changes to component spec for fitting purposes, or get a deal on some new Look Keo pedals, or even upgrade to go superlight.. Just get in touch if you have any questions..0
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Just updated the post. Wish I could figure out how to get pics on here!0
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Another small price drop to £1049 for either bike, with the shallow alloy training wheels, with many options to make the bikes lighter/more aero at very reasonable cost - you can customise wheel depth, material, tyre choice, all the contact points - saddle, seatpost, bars and stem (and bar tape), plus pedals (not included, but I have some of the more common options available) - and make either of these bikes something to suit you.
Additional bonus is that these are much less of a "system" bike, so you aren't tied into using the exact stem or seatpost that works only with your frame, the cable routing is straightforward and can be altered easily (and bike can be partly broken down for travelling without fuss).
Any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
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Sell them on eBay and see how much people are willing to pay for them. The hard sell here isn't working.
They aren't high spec or superbikes, they are entry level.
You might also want to explain why you have them, just in case anyone might infer from the misplaced hyperbole that the vendor isn't a cyclist and something seems fishy.
I'm baffled why anyone would buy two bare frames and build them up from new parts and sell them for less than the cost of the parts, personally. Also a little surprised that Wiggle sold these as frame only. They used the Vitus trademark for cheaper entry level bikes competing with the likes of Boardman, from what I recall.
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Those stems 😂
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Appreciate the comments. Let me try to address some of the concerns you've expressed.
I thought it would be useful to give plenty of information about the bikes - does that count as a hard sell? I'd say it's enthusiasm rather than hyperbole..
The equivalent new model for the Vitus or Viper sold for £2.5k retail 2-3 years ago, does that still make them entry level? One of you owns a Dolan Tuono - is that entry level too? I would have thought entry level was perhaps £1k or less.. Maybe I'm out of touch.
When GCN (and others) test out what might meet your definition of a "superbike" (presumably this is bound up with its cost in your eyes), how much better/stronger/faster/more comfortable do they reckon you're getting for the extra £££ jumping from £2.5k to £5k to £10k+? There's an awful lot of hype out there - not to mention huge brand marketing spends - and for what? It's a bicycle! And if it's carbon, it's probably being turned out of the same factory whether it costs £2.5k or £10k..
These are two very capable carbon bikes - they're not electronic or 12s or "full" hydraulic, but they're like new and only around £1k. What's not to like? Maybe there's no manufacturer/retailer guarantee, but I stand by everything I put together to sell. Wiggle were selling off overstocks a few years back and I bought these because they looked like great value. Yes, I do have the receipts. There was at least one high-level team in Ireland that used Vitus bikes for a few seasons; not sure Boardmans reached that level...?
I used to work with Roberts Cycles and still work with the former mechanic, who builds the bikes for me. He gets paid - he's the best in the business. Putting together these bikes is a hobby for me. I own a lot of bikes, I ride a lot, I have a lot of spare parts. I'm not trying to lose money, just get paid for the parts and for the mechanic's build fee, and put a smile on the face of anyone who chooses to buy from me. I generally try to build at a lower price level, and have sorted out dozens of riders, but these seemed like a great way to aim a bit higher; if they'd been sized medium, they'd have sold by now - I seem to be struggling to find a couple of taller riders wanting a relatively inexpensive way to get more into the sport..
And as for the stems, I simply build up with the longest, tallest stems I have, then there's no re-cabling when I swap them for the correct size and rise to suit the rider - that's pointed out in the bike info. If I did it any other way, I might end up doing a full re-cable. I'd say that's sensible, wouldn't you??
Nice to have some feedback, even if it snarky, but I'm not sure either of you really know your stuff. And the bikes are on eBay BTW.
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Well it also appears you don’t or they would have sold in the 4 months they have been on the market.
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I assume if they're on eBay it's with a reserve or buy it now price that is too high.
Like FA says put then on as an auction and you will find out what they're worth.
No I don't think my Dolan is an "entry level" bike but it certainly isn't a superbike.
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Fair comment. Maybe the price is too high. But I don't want to lose money and I know what I paid and I think they're good value at the price they're at. And, as you yourself pointed out, the "superbike" is in quotes..
I would prefer not to use eBay if I could avoid it, as selling things like bikes on there, where being able to try before you buy isn't straightforward, isn't the most suitable way to go. I'd like people to be able to contact me, talk to me and come and see the bikes without making a commitment to buy (even if it doesn't actually work like that on eBay, that's how it appears to most).. And there are other problems with eBay's auction model, not to mention their fees - happy to discuss in more detail if you'd like..
In the end, is there a problem with me putting these bikes up for sale here, even if they're not selling? Are they offending you?
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Not offence, but you are definitely over selling them. Even as high spec, because they aren't. The cable actuated brakes are a real issue these days.
Your main issue is the frame size to be honest. Put them on bikeradar.nl and you might have more luck.
Honestly, for that reason alone I wonder if you'd be better off selling the parts separately. Lots of folk like me have 11sp mechanical stuff and want a refresh. Wheels are okay, and should sell because they are discs. People are always searching for a saddle that isn't torture, and second hand is a lower risk way to do that, etc.
Eventually someone might take a punt on the frames, particularly the 57.
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Thanks again for the reply.
I am curious as to why you think the cable-actuated hydraulic brakes are an issue.. I use them on my own carbon-framed bike and have no problems with them whatsoever. Do road bikes need full hydraulic brakes? I can see the point on MTBs, but everyone was doing fine on the road on rim-braked bikes for 100+ years.. Surely full hydraulic and all the potential faff isn't a perfect solution either?
I'll have another look at my text, but I'd say that once you're up to Ultegra-spec with full-carbon disc-brake wheels, that's high spec. Not going to split hairs about gear inflation or electronic shifting, as for 99% of riders this is just marketing hype - I don't think you gain very much at all going from a £2.5k bike to a £5k bike (and up) - but your wallet would take a big hit..
If I wanted to sell parts separately, there are many places to do this. I would rather get the satisfaction of finding someone who wants what I happen to be selling - a new/as new bike that looks good, has been professionally built up and checked, with lots of options for the contact points/finish and even wheels/tyres, with someone willing to take the time to get the set-up and finish right, plus maybe a few extras that could be chucked in to sweeten the deal if needed, at a price that's maybe a little bit more than if you were taking a chance on secondhand sight-unseen. Part of the deal is spending the time with a prospective buyer (why eBay isn't ideal), answering questions, providing choices etc.
All I want is not to lose money on the parts I've sourced and get the mechanic his build fee. If it takes time to find this person, that's fine. I'm prepared to wait it out. I hope you won't get too aggrieved if the listing stays on here for the time being.
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These are currently listed with a set of aluminium-rimmed training wheels at less than £1k on eBay ATM FYI
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Vitus Vitesse Evo now SOLD. Viper RC2DB still available...
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Fuck me.
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It'll have to be twice...
Viper RC2DB now sold as well.. O ye of little faith!
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They were only for sale for 13 months.
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Was probably a lot more than 13 months. Just waiting for a buyer who knew that it was the right bike for them.
As per their requests, made lots of changes to listed spec and charged (and was paid) a fair price for what is a very reasonably priced "superbike"..
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