PTP 2023 - Scheldeprijs 5th April

twotoebenny
twotoebenny Posts: 1,509
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The Scheldeprijs is the oldest road race in Flanders, starts Wednesday. Usually one for the sprinty types get you picks in here usual rules apply.

Startlist here
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/scheldeprijs/2023/startlist

Previous Winner

2022 KRISTOFF Alexander
2021 PHILIPSEN Jasper
2020 EWAN Caleb
2019 JAKOBSEN Fabio
2018 JAKOBSEN Fabio
2017 KITTEL Marcel
2016 KITTEL Marcel
2015 KRISTOFF Alexander
2014 KITTEL Marcel
2013 KITTEL Marcel
2012 KITTEL Marcel

Route:


Comments

  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,778
    Philipsen please
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 42,453
    Jakobsen please
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,213
    Caleb Ewan pls
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,227
    Cav please
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,407
    Jakobsen please
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,422
    Philipsen

    thank you...
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  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,775
    Cav please
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  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,407
    m.r.m. said:

    Jakobsen please

    Changing to Philipsen please and sorry.
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  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,107
    Philipsen please
  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,163
    Jasper PHILIPSEN
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,225
    Jasper Philipsen please
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,619
    Jakobsen
  • Dialatron
    Dialatron Posts: 1,101
    Philipsen please
    Old, fat and that's just the bike.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,196
    Fabio JAKOBSEN please
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,036
    Jasper Philipsen pls
  • archieboy
    archieboy Posts: 1,369
    Philipsen pls

    Ta
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,313
    Philipsen for me, please.
  • rozzer32
    rozzer32 Posts: 3,898
    I’ll be different and go for Philipsen please.
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  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,509
    Jakobsen
  • singleton
    singleton Posts: 2,523
    Too late, good luck all.
  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,509


    scores on the doors - have we discussed what has happened with Quickstep?
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,313
    twotoebenny said:



    scores on the doors - have we discussed what has happened with Quickstep?

    I appear to be missing? Picked Philipsen above.
  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,509


    updated
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,313
    Thanks!
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,619
    Much as I like the free points I picked Jakobsen rather than Philipsen. Nil points for me - at least The Big Bean didn't score any either ;)
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,407
    edited April 2023
    twotoebenny said:



    scores on the doors - have we discussed what has happened with Quickstep?

    I think it's mainly down to shifting the focus entirely towards Remco despite Lefevere's protestations. When operating a tight budget you can pretty much only be 1 thing of the 3 possible at elite level (GC, classics or sprinting). There are exceptions, but those tend to have a massive, utterly outsized budget.

    QS no longer have a genuine classics leader. Alaphilippe is not in form (due to his many crashes) and maybe already past his prime. They don't really have a tier 1 classics rider besides Alaphilippe.
    In order to pay for Remco and his GC train, you have to sacrifice elsewhere.

    When Sky dominated GT's with Froome, their classics were not great considering the overall budget they were able to field. When QS dominated the classics, they were nowhere in GT's (with the one exception being Alaphilippe at the Tour 2019 if I remember correctly).

    Sky were also one of the first teams in recent years to recognize you have no space for a sprinter and his train when going for GC in GT's. So that type of rider has gotten more and more marginalized in recent years and moved either towards second and third tier teams or teams without serious GC aspirations.

    QS is no longer a classics team. They are a GT GC team with a sprinting side hustle. Alpecin is a classics team with sprinting. Only Jumbo are everything with the budget to match.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,225
    m.r.m. said:



    Sky were also one of the first teams in recent years to recognize you have no space for a sprinter and his train when going for GC in GT's.

    I think that was established long before Sky. Find me a sprinter at La Vie Claire, Banesto or US Postal
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  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,407
    Fair point
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  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,509


    final update - apologies

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