PTP 2023

red.rider
red.rider Posts: 1,034

Welcome to the 19th Annual PTP Competition

First off, a big thank you to @dish_dash for his long-term PTP service. This thread was directly ripped-off from dish's work.

Minor change for 2023: Benelux tour removed due to clash with Vuelta. Giro dell'Emilia included to fill the gap between Vuelta and closing weekend.

How to Play

Playing along with PTP is extremely simple - you don't have to sign up or join anything other than the Bikeradar forums. If you're already a member here, that means you're already eligible to play.

A few days before each of the chosen races, a PTP thread will be started in the Pro Race forum. That thread will contain a selection of useful links - start lists, race maps, past winners and so on. All you have to do is consider who you think is likely to win and post their name in that thread. It's that simple. If the race in question is a stage-race, you also get to predict the daily stage winners.

Post your pick in the relevant PTP thread before the cut off. If you change your mind then please post as a new post rather than editing your old post.

As you play, your scores will be added up and the overall season rankings will be updated in this thread. The scorer's will do their best to ensure scores are accounted for accurately, but ultimate responsibility lies with each player to make sure their points are correct.

PTP Races

Date | Race | Scorer
25/02 | Omloop Het Nieuswsblad | red.rider
26/02 | Kuurne Brussels Kuurne | red.rider
04/03 | Strade Bianche | red.rider
05-12/03 | Paris Nice | twotoebenny
06-12/03 | Tirreno-Adriatico | red.rider
18/03 | Milan San Remo | dish_dash
24/03 | E3 Saxo Classic | gregster04
26/03 | Gent-Wevelgem in Flanders Fields | gregster04
02/04 | Ronde van Vlaanderen | RichN95
05/04 | Scheldeprijs | twotoebenny
09/04 | Paris Roubaix | ducknumber1
16/04 | Amstel Gold Race | red.rider
19/04 | La Flèche Wallone | JimD666
23/04 | Liege Bastogne Liege | JimD666
25-30/04 | Tour de Romandie | gregster04
06-28/05 | Giro d'Italia | red.rider
04-11/06 | Critérium du Dauphiné | dish_dash
11-18/06 | Tour de Suisse | twotoebenny
01-23/07 | Tour de France | RichN95
29/07 | Donostia San Sebastian Klasikoa | dish_dash
06-13/08 | World Championships (RR + TT, Men + Women) | red.rider
26/08-17/09 | Vuelta a Espana | ducknumber1
30/09 | Giro dell'Emilia | JimD666
07/10 | Il Lombardia | red.rider
08/10 | Paris Tours | red.rider

PTP Top 10 from 2022

m.r.m. 1250
archieboy 1211
Dorset_Boy 1107
red.rider 1100
twotoebenny 1087
TheBigBean 1080
orraloon 1063
singleton 1059
ducknumber1 1051
gregster04 1041

Past PTP Winners

2022: m.r.m.
2021: twotoebenny
2020: rozzer32
2019: M.R.M.
2018: rozzer32
2017: rozzer32
2016: ducknumber1
2015: Stanislav
2014: Art Vandelay
2013: archieboy (I think)
2012: Art Vandelay
2011: rozzer32
2010: Kléber
2009: FJS
2008: Richrd2205
2007: andyp
2006: mangama
2005: ?unknown?

Scoring

TdF = Tour de France; G/V = Giro/Vuelta; Reg = Regular season

GC and one-day winners:
Pos | TdF | G/V | Reg
1 | 100 | 85 | 50
2 | 75 | 65 | 40
3 | 60 | 50 | 35
4 | 55 | 45 | 30
5 | 50 | 40 | 25
6 | 45 | 35 | 20
7 | 40 | 30 | 15
8 | 35 | 26 | 10
9 | 30 | 22 | 5
10 | 25 | 19 | 2
11 | 20 | 16 |
12 | 15 | 13 |
13 | 12 | 11 |
14 | 10 | 9 |
15 | 8 | 7 |
16 | 6 | 5 |
17 | 5 | 4 |
18 | 4 | 3 |
19 | 3 | 2 |
20 | 2 | 1 |

Stage winners:
Pos | TdF | G/V | Reg
1 | 12 | 10 | 6
2 | 10 | 8 | 5
3 | 8 | 6 | 4
4 | 7 | 5 | 3
5 | 6 | 4 | 2
6 | 5 | 3 | 1
7 | 4 | 2 |
8 | 3 | 1 |
9 | 2 |
10 | 1 |

These scores are already included in the following Google Sheets templates (use of templates not mandatory):
One day races
Stage races

Footnotes

Doping

Points are finalised once the race organisations publishes their results. No adjustments will be made if it later emerges that a rider has failed a drugs test or if a rider has wins retrospectively removed from their palmares.

Prediction Cut-off

Always the contentious one! The cut off is 12pm (noon) on the day of the race. This is strict so predictions at 12.01 won't be counted (exceptions made for split-stages, evening prologues etc. as described in each race's thread). No GC selections will be accepted once a stage-race has begun.

Comments

  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,034
    If the scorer's schedule above doesn't fit for anyone, let me know and we can work it out.
  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,034
    Race threads up for opening weekend!
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 16,575
    I usually only do the tour ... I'll give it a full season this year for a change
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,034
    3 rounds in and JimD666 has a 25 point lead over newcomer commuterlegs and forum stalwart RichN95.

    Top-10
    1. JimD666 90
    2. commuterlegs 65
    -. RichN95. 65
    4. bobmcstuff 55
    -. takethehighroad 55
    -. carbonclem 55
    -. daniel_b 55
    -. Dialatron 55
    9. gregster04 50
    -. twotoebenny 50
    -. Mad_Malx 50

    Full scores here.
  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,034
    Great form in Paris-Nice, Tirreno-Adriatico, and MSR sees @m.r.m. storm to the top of the table.

    Top-10
    1. m.r.m. 259
    2. orraloon 247
    3. Dialatron 242
    4. dish_dash 235
    5. andyp 232
    -. Dorset_Boy 232
    7. exiger1272 227
    8. TheBigBean 218
    9. takethehighroad 211
    10. carbonclem 202

    Full scores here.

    Next up is the double-header of E3 on Friday and Ghent-Wevelgem on Sunday.
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,296
    Just got back from a week of riding in Mallorca. MvdP MSR win and the lead here, awesome week! 😅
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,034
    edited April 2023
    Top-10 after the cobbled classics
    1. m.r.m. 439
    2. Dialatron 432
    3. andyp 422
    4. RichN95. 415
    5. dish_dash 390
    6. twotoebenny 382
    7. rozzer32 381
    8. archieboy 374
    9. orraloon 372
    10. gregster04 365

    Full scores here.

    Next up Amstel and the Ardennes
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 1,871
    Link seems to be broken.
  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,034
    JimD666 said:

    Link seems to be broken.

    Should work now
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 1,871
    It does. Thanks :)
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 6,747
    edited April 2023
    @red.rider Doesn't like like you have given me my 50 points for Roubaix!
    Sure I picked MvdP for the win.

    EDIT: Looked on the Roubaix PTP thread and can't see my post - sure I posted early last week.... :/
  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,034

    @red.rider Doesn't like like you have given me my 50 points for Roubaix!
    Sure I picked MvdP for the win.

    EDIT: Looked on the Roubaix PTP thread and can't see my post - sure I posted early last week.... :/

    That’s happened to a few recently: something not 100% with the forum backend.
    @all Double-check that your posts are actually posted before the deadline.

    AGR thread going up tomorrow.
  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,034
    At the end of the classics season, it's still @m.r.m. on top.

    Top 10
    1. m.r.m. 539
    2. Dialatron 532
    3. dish_dash 490
    4. twotoebenny 482
    5. rozzer32 481
    6. archieboy 474
    7. andyp 472
    8. orraloon 472
    9. gregster04 465
    10. mididoctors 452

    Thanks to all scorers who have contributed so far: @twotoebenny @dish_dash @gregster04 @RichN95. @ducknumber1 @JimD666

    Tour de Romandie starts tomorrow (thanks @gregster04 for putting up the thread), and the Giro starts in less than 2 weeks.
  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,034
    Tour de Romandie and the Giro wrapped up and we have a change of leader.

    Top 10
    1. Dialatron 719
    2. takethehighroad 647
    3. m.r.m. 638
    4. dish_dash 636
    5. TheBigBean 599
    6. gregster04 593
    7. orraloon 592
    8. twotoebenny 580
    9. archieboy 579
    10. Dorset_Boy 575

    Next up in June is the Dauphine (starts on Sunday 04-11/06) & Tour de Suisse (11-18/06), before the Tour de France starts on July 1st.
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,559
    I'm working over the weekend and don't know when I'll get time to post so for the Dauphine, please could I have Jonas V for GC and Christophe Laporte for Stage 1?
  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,034
    After the Criterium du Dauphiné and the Tour de Suisse @Dialatron still leads the overall, but the pack is closing up with just 100 points covering the top 10.

    Top 10
    1. Dialatron 801
    2. m.r.m. 777
    3. dish_dash 759
    4. takethehighroad 745
    5. TheBigBean 738
    6. gregster04 726
    7. archieboy 720
    8. orraloon 719
    9. twotoebenny 717
    10. andyp 701

    Next up: Le Tour starting on July 1st (just 10 days away).

  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,034
    Great form at Le Tour and San Sebastian sees @dish_dash storm to the top of the leaderboard.

    Top 10
    1. dish_dash 1048
    2. m.r.m. 1032
    3. takethehighroad 1024
    4. archieboy 1004
    5. rozzer32 995
    6. TheBigBean 991
    7. Dialatron 986
    8. twotoebenny 982
    9. orraloon 972
    10. Dorset_Boy 971

    Next up: Glasgow World Championships starting next Sunday.

    MRR: Sunday 6th
    WTT: Thursday 10th
    MTT: Friday 11th
    WRR: Sunday 13th
  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,034
    @m.r.m. takes the overall lead after a perfect World Champs.

    Top 10
    1. m.r.m. 1232
    2. dish_dash 1198
    3. takethehighroad 1174
    4. rozzer32 1145
    5. TheBigBean 1141
    6. twotoebenny 1132
    7. archieboy 1104
    8. Dorset_Boy 1096
    9. orraloon 1072
    10. andyp 1035

    We are into the final stretch now with the Vuelta and then the final 3 end-of-season classics in September.

    @ducknumber1 has already put up the Vuelta thread. Thanks Duck!
  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,034
    @gregster04 breaks into the top 10 after a great Vuelta, but the rest is relatively unchanged.

    Top 10
    1. m.r.m. 1380
    2. dish_dash 1355
    3. takethehighroad 1307
    4. TheBigBean 1298
    5. rozzer32 1292
    6. twotoebenny 1274
    7. Dorset_Boy 1258
    8. archieboy 1250
    9. orraloon 1219
    10. gregster04 1198

    3 one-day races to go (Emilia, Lombardi, Paris-Tours), so 8 PTPers still have a chance of overall glory. Can they play their numbers to crack @m.r.m.'?
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,296
    Hopefully not 😛
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,034
    edited October 2023
    Your final podium for PTP 2023:
    1. @m.r.m. 1490pts
    2. @dish_dash 1410pts
    3. @rozzer32 1402pts
    4. @takethehighroad 1397pts

    (Sorry TTHR, missed a column in the master spreadsheet and that put rozzer ahead)

    Congratulations @m.r.m.!

    Final scores here.

    Thanks for playing, and see you all on February 24th for Opening Weekend!
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 6,747
    Congrats MRM

    And a massive thank you to all the scorers.
  • gregster04
    gregster04 Posts: 1,655
    Happy to sneak into the top 10 and claim victory in the Vuelta.

    Chapeau m.r.m

    Thanks for organising red.rider

    Winter well and see you all next year.

  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 1,871
    Gratz to MRM and the other podium finishers

    Thanks to red.rider for coordinating/running
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,296
    My final score should probably be 1490 up from 1480 (based off of 1380 pts after the Vuelta). Not that it matters, but everyone check your scores.

    Thanks for scoring everyone. As always, watching cycling is a lot more fun with PTP and this forum.
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • archieboy
    archieboy Posts: 1,276
    Well done m.r.m and thanks for scoring everyone
  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,034
    m.r.m. said:

    My final score should probably be 1490 up from 1480 (based off of 1380 pts after the Vuelta). Not that it matters, but everyone check your scores.

    Thanks for scoring everyone. As always, watching cycling is a lot more fun with PTP and this forum.

    Good catch! My excel sum missed off Paris-Tours
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,537
    edited October 2023
    Congratulations M.R.M.

    Second place is my best ever result, so I'll take that!

    Thanks to everyone for keeping the show on the road. Especially red.rider for holding the reigns
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 16,575
    Well done everyone for taking part .
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,401
    Thanks for scoring, agree with all of the above comments, cant tell you how annoyed i get when missing a days pick! Well done MRM