No chamois bib tights

Hello.
Finding it increasingly difficult to buy a pair of bibtights without a chamois. A bit old school as I prefer to wear a good pair of bib shorts under my bib tights. Bought a pair of Assos Mille in the Sale but 1st ride started to pile or bobble so went back. Any recommendations out there I’d appreciate cheers.
Finding it increasingly difficult to buy a pair of bibtights without a chamois. A bit old school as I prefer to wear a good pair of bib shorts under my bib tights. Bought a pair of Assos Mille in the Sale but 1st ride started to pile or bobble so went back. Any recommendations out there I’d appreciate cheers.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.
Don’t know these but at £38.38 am quite tempted!
https://www.cyclestore.co.uk/pearl_izumi_pursuit_thermal_bib_tights_no_pad-ID_73138?opt=126892&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5sSat_v0_AIVVuDtCh2rJQNcEAQYASABEgLovPD_BwE
Also they are much less likely to lead to embarrassing moments. For instance you arrive home p!ss wet through and take yourself and the bike in to integral garage. As the washing machine is there in front of you, you strip off your wet tights and put them in to machine. You head in to the house to find the wife’s got half the village round for afternoon tea.
https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CLPXCRWT/planet-x-clubman-roubaix-winter-bib-tights