Tour de France 2024: the route

wakemalcolm
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rick_chasey said:

2024 Tour final stage is a TT in Nice, to avoid the Olympics.

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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,448
    The start is expected to be in Florence, which suggests a route that heavily favours the south of France.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,703
    andyp said:

    The start is expected to be in Florence, which suggests a route that heavily favours the south of France.

    Confirmed:

    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/racing/confirmed-italy-to-host-tour-de-france-grand-depart-in-2024
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,390
    I really don't get the TdF starting in Italy.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 26,970
    Dorset_Boy said:

    I really don't get the TdF starting in Italy.

    Or any other country come to that.
    A money making effort that detracts from the core essence.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,646
    edited December 2022
    Will be making an effort to be there hopefully.

    Really excited. Love Bologna too, and so pleased it's going up San Luca twice.

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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    rick_chasey said:

    Will be making an effort to be there hopefully.

    Really excited. Love Bologna too, and so pleased it's going up San Luca twice.

    eh?

    we would have thought this is one event you'd be boycotting, not actively encouraging and being part of.

    Totally confused now.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,646
    I mean if you’re there then obviously I won’t.
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    rick_chasey said:

    Will be making an effort to be there hopefully.

    Really excited. Love Bologna too, and so pleased it's going up San Luca twice.

    Bologna in July… brings back sweaty memories…

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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    rick_chasey said:

    I mean if you’re there then obviously I won’t.

    yeah, 'cos tracking you down to hang out to drink wine whilst watching cycling in the most beautiful city in the world with is going to be top of everyone's list.

    or not, as the case mat be. Your bantz and reparte will probably be too much tbh.

    are you taking a pedestal/stepladder to see over the children in the crowd?

    just seems very, very hypocritical thing for you to do tbh, but hey....
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    I had a drink with Rick once… in Richmond… he looks like Pantani, but ain’t as quick
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
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    ugo.santalucia said:

    I had a drink with Rick once… in Richmond… he looks like Pantani, but ain’t as quick

    so short and skinny?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    edited December 2022
    MattFalle said:

    .

    ugo.santalucia said:

    I had a drink with Rick once… in Richmond… he looks like Pantani, but ain’t as quick

    so short and skinny?
    Yes and with a cycling cap

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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    ugo.santalucia said:

    MattFalle said:

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    ugo.santalucia said:

    I had a drink with Rick once… in Richmond… he looks like Pantani, but ain’t as quick

    so short and skinny?
    Yes and with a cycling cap

    what - down the pub?

    in normal clothes in a normal setting with normal people?

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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    Down the pub… with normal people from the Forum… I seem to recall he was in cycling clothes… or at least cycling jersey. He was quite a nice bloke… young… probably not so young now… must be almost 10 years ago
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    We used to do forum things, you know… forum ride… the spring fling
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    … I organised one, not as successful as NapoleonD ones… those with Colin Something… the Irish Paralympic hour record holder
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    Colin Lynch…
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    ugo.santalucia said:

    Down the pub… with normal people from the Forum… I seem to recall he was in cycling clothes… or at least cycling jersey. He was quite a nice bloke… young… probably not so young now… must be almost 10 years ago

    time gets to us all.

    well, apart from you, me and Boris Becker it seems.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,646
    Anyway, presumably the Bologna stage will finish ontop of the hill. 10 years ago you'd put your money on Gilbert, but who is the best at those shortish sharp hills nowadays? Pog et all I guess? near enough 2km at 10%.

    It's a shade too long and steep for the likes of MvdP or WvA. Woods maybe?
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    ugo.santalucia said:

    Colin Lynch…

    yes - him snd Nap D.

    I remember some clubbie trying to tell CL how to ride his bicycle then somebody had to have a quiet word.

    Anyone in comms with Nap?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,760
    edited December 2022
    rick_chasey said:

    Anyway, presumably the Bologna stage will finish ontop of the hill. 10 years ago you'd put your money on Gilbert, but who is the best at those shortish sharp hills nowadays? Pog et all I guess? near enough 2km at 10%.

    It's a shade too long and steep for the likes of MvdP or WvA. Woods maybe?

    Is that the one the Giro had a time trial up? That was Roglic, Yates, Nibali, Superman, so would be the usual GC suspects.

    I really can't see the attraction of the Tour in Italy.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,646
    kingstongraham said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Anyway, presumably the Bologna stage will finish ontop of the hill. 10 years ago you'd put your money on Gilbert, but who is the best at those shortish sharp hills nowadays? Pog et all I guess? near enough 2km at 10%.

    It's a shade too long and steep for the likes of MvdP or WvA. Woods maybe?

    Is that the one the Giro had a time trial up? That was Roglic, Yates, Nibali, Superman, so would be the usual GC suspects.

    I really can't see the attraction of the Tour in Italy.
    Yeah.

    I like the Tour being on and near where I’ll be in the summer holidays.
    _
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,646
    rick_chasey said:

    Anyway, presumably the Bologna stage will finish ontop of the hill. 10 years ago you'd put your money on Gilbert, but who is the best at those shortish sharp hills nowadays? Pog et all I guess? near enough 2km at 10%.

    It's a shade too long and steep for the likes of MvdP or WvA. Woods maybe?

    To answer my own question, Mas dropped Pog last time up here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cqdD0kB3RY
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    rick_chasey said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Anyway, presumably the Bologna stage will finish ontop of the hill. 10 years ago you'd put your money on Gilbert, but who is the best at those shortish sharp hills nowadays? Pog et all I guess? near enough 2km at 10%.

    It's a shade too long and steep for the likes of MvdP or WvA. Woods maybe?

    To answer my own question, Mas dropped Pog last time up here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cqdD0kB3RY
    Ha… the classic 6 minutes job… surely you need a hill climber! Alaphilippe has that kind of 7.5W/kg power over that time frame

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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    rick_chasey said:

    kingstongraham said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Anyway, presumably the Bologna stage will finish ontop of the hill. 10 years ago you'd put your money on Gilbert, but who is the best at those shortish sharp hills nowadays? Pog et all I guess? near enough 2km at 10%.

    It's a shade too long and steep for the likes of MvdP or WvA. Woods maybe?

    Is that the one the Giro had a time trial up? That was Roglic, Yates, Nibali, Superman, so would be the usual GC suspects.

    I really can't see the attraction of the Tour in Italy.
    Yeah.

    I like the Tour being on and near where I’ll be in the summer holidays.
    so surely under new Ricktopian travel legislation that will be mainland UK accesible by eBike or train/bus only?

    no countryside for obvs reasons
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,760
    3700m of climbing on the first stage is pretty hefty.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    kingstongraham said:

    3700m of climbing on the first stage is pretty hefty.

    Prevents seeing a week of unlikely yellow jerseys I guess

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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,448
    rick_chasey said:

    Anyway, presumably the Bologna stage will finish ontop of the hill. 10 years ago you'd put your money on Gilbert, but who is the best at those shortish sharp hills nowadays? Pog et all I guess? near enough 2km at 10%.

    It's a shade too long and steep for the likes of MvdP or WvA. Woods maybe?

    It doesn't finish at the top, drops back down to the line in Bologna.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,646
    andyp said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Anyway, presumably the Bologna stage will finish ontop of the hill. 10 years ago you'd put your money on Gilbert, but who is the best at those shortish sharp hills nowadays? Pog et all I guess? near enough 2km at 10%.

    It's a shade too long and steep for the likes of MvdP or WvA. Woods maybe?

    It doesn't finish at the top, drops back down to the line in Bologna.

    You’d suggest maybe it is MvdP and WvA as they’re faster finishers then.
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,390
    will they get their 100 kmh Zwift badge on the way back down?! :D

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