La Vuelta 2022 - Stage 11:- ElPozo Alimentación - Cabo de Gata, 191.2km ***Spoilers***

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,812
    edited September 2022
    m.r.m. said:

    Pross said:

    Alaphillipe crashes out of another race.

    How comes Geraint and others get stick for crashing a lot whereas Alaphillipe regularly gets referred to as an excellent bike handler?

    In the choppy footage it looks like Plapp crashing (in typical Ineos fashion 😉) exactly in front of Alaphilippe and Alaphilippe then going over the handlebars.
    And how is that different from say, Wilko Kelderman crashing in front of Geraint, after hitting the Giro police motorbike?
    Or Andrey Zeits crashing right in front of G, at the Tour of Switzerland in 2019? (probably costing him that second consecutive Tour win)

    You can't have it both ways when it suits.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,479
    They just showed amateur footage of the Alaphillipe crash and it looked like he just slid out with no-one else involved. ‘Only’ a dislocation apparently so he may be back to defend his title.
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,339
    edited September 2022

    m.r.m. said:

    Pross said:

    Alaphillipe crashes out of another race.

    How comes Geraint and others get stick for crashing a lot whereas Alaphillipe regularly gets referred to as an excellent bike handler?

    In the choppy footage it looks like Plapp crashing (in typical Ineos fashion 😉) exactly in front of Alaphilippe and Alaphilippe then going over the handlebars.
    And how is that different from say, Wilko Kelderman crashing in front of Geraint, after hitting the Giro police motorbike?
    Or Andrey Zeits crashing right in front of G, at the Tour of Switzerland in 2019? (probably costing him that second consecutive Tour win)

    You can't have it both ways when it suits.
    I don't intend to have it both ways. Geraint crashes a ton. Alaphilippe crashes also, but less so. Alaphilippe definitely handles his bike better than pretty much any Ineos rider other than Pidcock who is much better than Alaphilippe in that department.

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  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    m.r.m. said:

    m.r.m. said:

    Pross said:

    Alaphillipe crashes out of another race.

    How comes Geraint and others get stick for crashing a lot whereas Alaphillipe regularly gets referred to as an excellent bike handler?

    In the choppy footage it looks like Plapp crashing (in typical Ineos fashion 😉) exactly in front of Alaphilippe and Alaphilippe then going over the handlebars.
    And how is that different from say, Wilko Kelderman crashing in front of Geraint, after hitting the Giro police motorbike?
    Or Andrey Zeits crashing right in front of G, at the Tour of Switzerland in 2019? (probably costing him that second consecutive Tour win)

    You can't have it both ways when it suits.
    I don't intend to have it both ways. Geraint crashes a ton. Alaphilippe crashes also, but less so. Alaphilippe definitely handles his bike better than pretty much any Ineos rider other than Pidcock who is much better than Alaphilippe in that department.

    I would image Ben Turner and Ben Tuillet can also ride the bikes fairly well given they have the same cycling back ground as Tom Pidcock.
  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,193
    m.r.m. said:

    Pross said:

    Alaphillipe crashes out of another race.

    How comes Geraint and others get stick for crashing a lot whereas Alaphillipe regularly gets referred to as an excellent bike handler?

    In the choppy footage it looks like Plapp crashing (in typical Ineos fashion 😉) exactly in front of Alaphilippe and Alaphilippe then going over the handlebars.
    No-one else was involved in Alaphillipe's crash. He just lost his front wheel