Best route planning site ?

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Just to plan and share road rides with others - ideally so they can download them to a GPS.
I did use Strava but I don't have a subscription and wouldn't use any of the other features - anything easy to use that is free ?
Additional features are a distraction not an advantage.
I did use Strava but I don't have a subscription and wouldn't use any of the other features - anything easy to use that is free ?
Additional features are a distraction not an advantage.
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Had a dabble with Komoot as well but didn't really like that.
What was it that put you off @ibr17xvii?
Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
Scott CR1 SL 12
Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
Scott Foil 18
Wilier Cento Uno SR/Wilier Mortirolo/Specialized Roubaix Comp/Kona Hei Hei/Calibre Bossnut
I can’t get on with Komoot, doesn’t seem to fit my brain, and I hate its ‘social’ interface.
As others have said I just didn't find it very user friendly although to be fair it was a while ago now.
Since Strava did TBT navigation & updated the route planning interface I've not needed to look at anything else.
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2020 Voodoo Marasa
2017 Cube Attain GTC Pro Disc 2016
2016 Voodoo Wazoo
That said I prefer Strava's route mapping.
Kamoot looked like a faff when I looked previously, but has thrown lots of freebies at the cycling journalists.
I am not sure. You have no chance.
Old skool: maps and memory. I never use GPS for navigation, and if I can't memorise bits of a complicated route I do a screen grab as back-up.
I'm a RideWithGPS user if being modern, for the planning bit. I'd never go on an automated planner, as I enjoy the interaction with maps & terrain for each part of a ride.
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