Heartbroken...frame broken

secretsam
secretsam Posts: 5,120
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My 1986 531 steelie frame just broke. Gear hanger snapped.
I think it's terminal, uneconomical to fix.
I could cry.



It's just a hill. Get over it.

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  • thistle_
    thistle_ Posts: 7,218
    Argos say £50 for a braze on hanger which doesn't seem too bad if you like the bike.
    Might be other places that can do it quicker/cheaper and nearer to wherever you are.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,321
    There are a few things you can do...
    the obvious one is a single speed conversion, since you have horizontal dropouts.
    The other is to use one of those hangers that clamp to the quick release, much like they did back in the days... see what I mean?

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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    secretsam said:

    My 1986 531 steelie frame just broke. Gear hanger snapped.
    I think it's terminal, uneconomical to fix.
    I could cry.

    Don't be ridiculous. It's a brazed dropout, easily replaceable by any competent frame builder (such as Argos, as above).

  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,855
    It's only ridiculous if you know what's repairable and what's not. One of the great things about steel frames is they are repairable more easily than aluminium or titanium.
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  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,120
    Mmmm...£50...Argos... Bristol (my home town)...
    It's just a hill. Get over it.
  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,120
    ugo.santalucia said:

    There are a few things you can do...
    the obvious one is a single speed conversion, since you have horizontal dropouts.
    The other is to use one of those hangers that clamp to the quick release, much like they did back in the days... see what I mean?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rear-Mech-Derailleur-Hanger-Convertor-Adaptor-Gear-New-will-Fit-Shimano-SRAM-/371624551835?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
    It's just a hill. Get over it.
  • andrew_s-2
    andrew_s-2 Posts: 53
    secretsam said:

    Mmmm...£50...Argos... Bristol (my home town)...

    Replacing the dropout will wreck the paint around the dropout, so there's extra cost for that. Anything from a couple of tins of hammerite (primer & top) and some elbow grease up to to £200 for a full respray.

  • Harry182
    Harry182 Posts: 1,170
    I see opportunity - single speed (w/ magic gearing) then n+1
  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,120
    Harry182 said:

    I see opportunity - single speed (w/ magic gearing) then n+1

    Tempting, but I have neither need nor room for another bike (this was my turbo bike)
    It's just a hill. Get over it.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,321
    secretsam said:

    ugo.santalucia said:

    There are a few things you can do...
    the obvious one is a single speed conversion, since you have horizontal dropouts.
    The other is to use one of those hangers that clamp to the quick release, much like they did back in the days... see what I mean?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rear-Mech-Derailleur-Hanger-Convertor-Adaptor-Gear-New-will-Fit-Shimano-SRAM-/371624551835?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
    Yes, that
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  • proto
    proto Posts: 1,483
    andrew_s-2 said:

    secretsam said:

    Mmmm...£50...Argos... Bristol (my home town)...

    Replacing the dropout will wreck the paint around the dropout, so there's extra cost for that. Anything from a couple of tins of hammerite (primer & top) and some elbow grease up to to £200 for a full respray.

    Full respray £200??? Done properly you'll likely to be out 3 times that.

  • andrew_s-2
    andrew_s-2 Posts: 53
    proto said:


    Full respray £200??? Done properly you'll likely to be out 3 times that.

    Argos say "Frame and forks in plain or metallic enamel £225.", and they aren't the cheapest of places.

    But, yes, if you want a fancy paint job, you can pay a lot

  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,339
    andrew_s-2 said:

    proto said:


    Full respray £200??? Done properly you'll likely to be out 3 times that.

    Argos say "Frame and forks in plain or metallic enamel £225.", and they aren't the cheapest of places.

    But, yes, if you want a fancy paint job, you can pay a lot

    It's red. How hard is repainting that part of the frame going to be?
  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,120
    First.Aspect said:

    It's red. How hard is repainting that part of the frame going to be?

    This is me we're talking about. The simplest of tasks can turn into an absolute mission... :p

    It's just a hill. Get over it.
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    secretsam said:

    First.Aspect said:

    It's red. How hard is repainting that part of the frame going to be?

    This is me we're talking about. The simplest of tasks can turn into an absolute mission... :p

    paint the drop outs on both sides in black, no need to colour match then.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    darkhairedlord said:

    secretsam said:

    First.Aspect said:

    It's red. How hard is repainting that part of the frame going to be?

    This is me we're talking about. The simplest of tasks can turn into an absolute mission... :p

    paint the drop outs on both sides in black, no need to colour match then.
    The brazing will discolour the paint on the stays, regardless of what colour the dropouts are painted. At least a partial repaint will be needed...
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,855
    imposter2.0 said:

    darkhairedlord said:

    secretsam said:

    First.Aspect said:

    It's red. How hard is repainting that part of the frame going to be?

    This is me we're talking about. The simplest of tasks can turn into an absolute mission... :p

    paint the drop outs on both sides in black, no need to colour match then.
    The brazing will discolour the paint on the stays, regardless of what colour the dropouts are painted. At least a partial repaint will be needed...
    Probably best to paint the repair after its done.
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  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    imposter2.0 said:

    darkhairedlord said:

    secretsam said:

    First.Aspect said:

    It's red. How hard is repainting that part of the frame going to be?

    This is me we're talking about. The simplest of tasks can turn into an absolute mission... :p

    paint the drop outs on both sides in black, no need to colour match then.
    The brazing will discolour the paint on the stays, regardless of what colour the dropouts are painted. At least a partial repaint will be needed...
    Araldite them on.
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,125
    First.Aspect said:

    es, if you want a fancy paint job, you can pay a lot

    It's red. How hard is repainting that part of the frame going to be?


    Not very, a big rattle can of primer, colour and gloss and the whole frame is done.
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,339
    They also make red electrical tape.

    I think the OP is over analysing this.

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