Wednesday begins, for some earlier than others in the land of mince pie variants…

homers_double

Mine began around 00:50 to the sound of vomit from a small child however I am due to escape the stench around 6 to head for the Omicron riddled shires of the south.
TBH I’m not sure which is worse!

oxoman

Morning HD, commiserations on both counts. Kids puking wins hands down for me. Hope they getbbetter soon. WFW, arms a bit sore from yesterday's booster but I've not grown 2 horns or feel ruff yet. Hopefully pick OH,s xmas present up later. PS, bloody cold out and can't find my scraper.

tlw1

I don’t miss the random puking of the kids!

Walk hounds, work stuff if it calms down I might claim some of my holidays I’m missing and go out on the gravel bike.

Later is a run and then meant to be staying in now, I doubt that will happen

sungod

'ning

really very nippy indeed, and gloomy

ride unless i spot ice, cafes, more jib-jab, mince pie, wfh, bubbly

pinno

Christ it's dark.
Can you explain the oddity SG?:

It's been growing lighter in the evenings for the last 7 or 8 days but the morning light has been later and later and will be for the next few days.
Overall, up until the solstice, the day was getting shorter.

Meeting (not Zoom). Makes a happy change.
I must say, the girls were pretty good on the throwing up front. Cannot remember getting up in the night to attend to them very often at all, bar feeds.

step83

Tis a bit nippy today, plenty of frost an a brilliant red sky this morning.
HD welcome to the cursed plague Shires if you happen to venture near Heck avoid, apparently its 11th on the top places with the cursed plague currently.

Today seems mainly to be meeting about things I don't really need to be involved in where people are panicking over things not happening due to them being off so they just drag everyone in.

thistle_

pinno said:

Christ it's dark.
Can you explain the oddity SG?:

It's been growing lighter in the evenings for the last 7 or 8 days but the morning light has been later and later and will be for the next few days.

Maybe your clocks are running slow?

Stevo_666

I was still up watching the box at time of said puking incident, as today is first day of the holidays. Good lie as usual, few phone calls and just about to arrange a trip to the specialist as BUPA have sent through their list of choices.

Will screw more furniture together later.

Wheelspinner

Made progress on the DIY list, although not setting a cracking pace with it. Might see if I can pick up some shelf material tomorrow and have something to do over the Xmas break when stores are closed no doubt.

Nice late afternoon dawdle about on a bike, deliberately slow and nosey.

sungod

pinno said:

Christ it's dark.
Can you explain the oddity SG?:
...

the planet has an axial tilt, so sunrise/noon/sunset times change as the planet goes around the sun, the effects get more extreme the closer you are to the axis (i.e. one of the terrestrial poles)

in london, solar noon is still a smidge earlier than noon utc, but soon will lag it

up in the far northern sticks where you are, it already lags it a fair bit

that lag will keep on increasing for a while, then feb-mar start reducing, eventually it'll lead utc

similar thing happens with sunrise/sunset times, so even though the days are lengthening, your sunrise still ends up getting later for a while

for this profoundly lucid explanation i shall now reward myself with a mince pie

veronese68

Afternoon folks,
In the orifice again fending off stupid, too many people in the house doing the wfh thing so it's quieter here. Drove in for a variety of reasons including laziness, it looked rather slippy to say the least and I had to go and pick up a few cases of beer to keep the warehouse staff sweet .
I just got accused of bullying One of the guys said he should lay off the mince pies as his wife said he was getting fat. I told him he had a god-like figure, then pointed out that Buddha is a god. He said he felt bullied. So I reported myself to his manager, along with said bloke. Told him I'd said the guy had a god-like figure and he claimed bullying. Said manager immediately asked if I was thinking of Buddha
Luckily nobody was taking the conversation seriously.
I think I deserve a mince pie to help me get a god-like figure.
Hope the little person is alright now and you managed to get enough kip in the end HD. You should eat their share of the mince pies to avoid more puking.

orraloon

And The Trees are all planted. 4,000, tick. Big big group turnout today, finished them off within a couple of hours. So charity's funding deal secured.

And that's my commitments finished for the year. Now it's Me Time. 🤓

MattFalle

Ciao

utterly blimmin' freezin' and at 4:25, pitch black.

toyin' around with a old 'Dale frameset trying to get inspired but failing.

pinno

sungod said:

pinno said:

Christ it's dark.
Can you explain the oddity SG?:
...

the planet has an axial tilt, so sunrise/noon/sunset times change as the planet goes around the sun, the effects get more extreme the closer you are to the axis (i.e. one of the terrestrial poles)

in london, solar noon is still a smidge earlier than noon utc, but soon will lag it

up in the far northern sticks where you are, it already lags it a fair bit

that lag will keep on increasing for a while, then feb-mar start reducing, eventually it'll lead utc

similar thing happens with sunrise/sunset times, so even though the days are lengthening, your sunrise still ends up getting later for a while

for this profoundly lucid explanation i shall now reward myself with a mince pie*

Thank you.
And that will teach Thistle.

The lag. That was the bit I couldn't work out.

pinno

MattFalle said:

Ciao

utterly blimmin' freezin' and at 4:25, pitch black.

toyin' around with a old 'Dale frameset trying to get inspired but failing.

Set alight to it... You know the rest.

MattFalle

Do i have to fill it with frozen dog poo first?

pinno

MattFalle said:

Do i have to fill it with frozen dog poo first?

What, using a piping bag?

MattFalle

Exactly.

or use a blender so its granular.

pinno

You have to give it tme to deforst or else, it will loose impact.
I mean, it has to absolutley reek when launched.

Pop some eggs in it to plug the tubes. Month old eggs from Edwyn's discount food shop for those with Welsh passports* and food tokens. Fit some fireworks down the seat tube. Boom! Big spread. Those boys in the Carry-o-bangi core could furnish you with the right 'fireworks'.
*Not the people from Bury Port. They are the posh one's who live in statics and drive Mercs.

sungod

pinno said:

sungod said:

pinno said:

Christ it's dark.
Can you explain the oddity SG?:
...

the planet has an axial tilt, so sunrise/noon/sunset times change as the planet goes around the sun, the effects get more extreme the closer you are to the axis (i.e. one of the terrestrial poles)

in london, solar noon is still a smidge earlier than noon utc, but soon will lag it

up in the far northern sticks where you are, it already lags it a fair bit

that lag will keep on increasing for a while, then feb-mar start reducing, eventually it'll lead utc

similar thing happens with sunrise/sunset times, so even though the days are lengthening, your sunrise still ends up getting later for a while

for this profoundly lucid explanation i shall now reward myself with a mince pie*

...
And that will teach Thistle.
...

actually, he was double wrong

not only was it nothing to do with your clock, as us down south are rotating at higher velocity than you, special relativity shows that your clock will be running a smidge faster than ours

i shall now have another sip of bubbly

pinno

sungod said:

pinno said:

sungod said:

pinno said:

Christ it's dark.
Can you explain the oddity SG?:
...

the planet has an axial tilt, so sunrise/noon/sunset times change as the planet goes around the sun, the effects get more extreme the closer you are to the axis (i.e. one of the terrestrial poles)

in london, solar noon is still a smidge earlier than noon utc, but soon will lag it

up in the far northern sticks where you are, it already lags it a fair bit

that lag will keep on increasing for a while, then feb-mar start reducing, eventually it'll lead utc

similar thing happens with sunrise/sunset times, so even though the days are lengthening, your sunrise still ends up getting later for a while

for this profoundly lucid explanation i shall now reward myself with a mince pie*

...
And that will teach Thistle.
...

actually, he was double wrong

no only was it nothing to do with your clock, as us down south are rotating at higher velocity than you, special relativity shows that your clock will be running a smidge faster than ours

i shall now have another sip of bubbly

Does that mean I am ageing quicker?
If my clock is running quicker, then I could post faster TT times than Thistle with less effort.

pinno

pinno said:

If my clock is running quicker, then I could post faster TT times than Thistle with less effort.

Bollox. I have just realised that it's the other way around.

sungod

pinno said:

pinno said:

If my clock is running quicker, then I could post faster TT times than Thistle with less effort.

Bollox. I have just realised that it's the other way around.

doesn't work that way

you are in the same reference frame as your clock, from your perspective you go the same distance in the same time as you would if you shifted down south

sip

pinno

sungod said:

pinno said:

pinno said:

If my clock is running quicker, then I could post faster TT times than Thistle with less effort.

Bollox. I have just realised that it's the other way around.

doesn't work that way

you are in the same reference frame as your clock, from your perspective you go the same distance in the same time as you would if you shifted down south

sip

So how do I use the space/time continuum to get an advantage?
Is 'south' down the hill?

sungod

pinno said:

sungod said:

pinno said:

pinno said:

If my clock is running quicker, then I could post faster TT times than Thistle with less effort.

Bollox. I have just realised that it's the other way around.

doesn't work that way

you are in the same reference frame as your clock, from your perspective you go the same distance in the same time as you would if you shifted down south

sip

So how do I use the space/time continuum to get an advantage?
Is 'south' down the hill?

you can't really, an observer in a different reference frame would still be able to count your clock ticks and determine your local speed

the uphill question is rather interesting, you can use this to visualise what happens in different cases assuming frictionless movement over a smooth planet, the 'reference' eccentricity is the earth's (which is oblate, not a perfect sphere)...

https://edwardsjohnmartin.github.io/coriolis/

but with all the lumpy bits and friction, there's nothing practical to exploit

physics is a cruel mistress

tawny port time

pinno

Yes, it's a bit squashed.
This is an odd conundrum: the world seems to have suffered a deformation akin to centrifugal force but then simultaneously, has suffered the effects of gravity.

As an extension of the atomic theory of the bicycle: momentum is dependant on mass exceeding frictional forces placed on it. Therefore, if I was to exploit the eccentricity, I would need to eat many mince pies and lots of Christmas pudding.

pinno

Isn't it about this time VN staggers in after his curry night?

pblakeney

pinno said:

Yes, it's a bit squashed.
This is an odd conundrum: the world seems to have suffered a deformation akin to centrifugal force but then simultaneously, has suffered the effects of gravity.

As an extension of the atomic theory of the bicycle: momentum is dependant on mass exceeding frictional forces placed on it. Therefore, if I was to exploit the eccentricity, I would need to eat many mince pies and lots of Christmas pudding.

By Jove! I think he's got it!

veronese68

pinno said:

Isn't it about this time VN staggers in after his curry night?

Didn't go out tonight. Not worth risking screwing up the last Christmas with the old dear in the family home. Sister has made it over from Italy with her kids, thankfully not with the twatinlaw. Mum moves out in the new year after 52 years in the place so it's a bigger deal than usual. I can wait until next week. I would have been happy to sit outside for a quick drink, but others made poor excuses so we all bailed.

pinno

veronese68 said:

pinno said:

Isn't it about this time VN staggers in after his curry night?

Didn't go out tonight. Not worth risking screwing up the last Christmas with the old dear in the family home. Sister has made it over from Italy with her kids, thankfully not with the twatinlaw. Mum moves out in the new year after 52 years in the place so it's a bigger deal than usual. I can wait until next week. I would have been happy to sit outside for a quick drink, but others made poor excuses so we all bailed.

Such are the times we live in.
The bottom line is - does Mum want to move?

veronese68

pinno said:

veronese68 said:

pinno said:

Isn't it about this time VN staggers in after his curry night?

Didn't go out tonight. Not worth risking screwing up the last Christmas with the old dear in the family home. Sister has made it over from Italy with her kids, thankfully not with the twatinlaw. Mum moves out in the new year after 52 years in the place so it's a bigger deal than usual. I can wait until next week. I would have been happy to sit outside for a quick drink, but others made poor excuses so we all bailed.

Such are the times we live in.
The bottom line is - does Mum want to move?

Indeed.
Yes, Mum wants to move so I'm doing everything I can to help. Not least becasue I'm nearest. The house needs a lot of work and is too big for her. She's buying a place just round the corner across the road from her sister. The problem is my sister and her kids have been in denial about it to say the least, not being quite so difficult now but could certainly be more supportive. Thankfully the old dear doesn't feel emotional attachment to the place and is quite matter of fact, she misses the old man of course but isn't particularly attached to material things thankfully.