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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Stevo_666 said:

    morstar said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Amusing rationale in a recent paper article about the reason for the U-turns:

    "Forget the four steps of the Prime Minister’s roadmap. You don’t need a PhD to understand the formula of how every single government U-turn has come about.

    Step 1: Mr Johnson, conscious of the economic calamity being caused by lockdown and mindful of the timebomb of non-Covid conditions waiting to explode, calls for restrictions to be lifted.

    Step 2: Modellers release a worse-case scenario suggesting the NHS is in danger of being overwhelmed, if not now, then certainly by winter.

    Step 3: Scientific group thinkers perhaps motivated by a self-interest in lockdown that may have been influenced by socialist tendencies take to the airwaves insisting that the “irresponsible” Prime Minister is unnecessarily putting lives at risk.

    Step 4: The unions and opposition mobilise to suggest the #Toryscum of a Government is getting it wrong, aided by a largely Left-leaning Twitterati of middle-class armchair experts who quite like working from home.

    Step 5: Those with a dissenting view who dare to suggest the modellers may be overegging it are denounced as quacks while a letter, signed by their detractors, is submitted to the BMJ or The Lancet warning against the “dangerous and unethical” ditching of masks and social distancing.

    Step 6: Increasingly concerned by the growing media backlash, and persuaded by polling which unsurprisingly suggests that a terrified public is afraid of being lifted out of lockdown, Mr Johnson backs down."


    Step 4 sounds strangely familiar :)

    Amusing you say?

    Care to highlight the relevant parts?

    I'm sure there has been discussion before about right wing comedy / comedians.
    See my subtle clue above where I mention step 4 ;)

    Seems to have stirred up a few armchair experts...
    Ah OK.

    I guess that could be amusing if the criticism of the government was solely agenda driven.

    Unfortunately, the government has been pretty shit and has deserved a lot of criticism.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,254
    morstar said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    morstar said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Amusing rationale in a recent paper article about the reason for the U-turns:

    "Forget the four steps of the Prime Minister’s roadmap. You don’t need a PhD to understand the formula of how every single government U-turn has come about.

    Step 1: Mr Johnson, conscious of the economic calamity being caused by lockdown and mindful of the timebomb of non-Covid conditions waiting to explode, calls for restrictions to be lifted.

    Step 2: Modellers release a worse-case scenario suggesting the NHS is in danger of being overwhelmed, if not now, then certainly by winter.

    Step 3: Scientific group thinkers perhaps motivated by a self-interest in lockdown that may have been influenced by socialist tendencies take to the airwaves insisting that the “irresponsible” Prime Minister is unnecessarily putting lives at risk.

    Step 4: The unions and opposition mobilise to suggest the #Toryscum of a Government is getting it wrong, aided by a largely Left-leaning Twitterati of middle-class armchair experts who quite like working from home.

    Step 5: Those with a dissenting view who dare to suggest the modellers may be overegging it are denounced as quacks while a letter, signed by their detractors, is submitted to the BMJ or The Lancet warning against the “dangerous and unethical” ditching of masks and social distancing.

    Step 6: Increasingly concerned by the growing media backlash, and persuaded by polling which unsurprisingly suggests that a terrified public is afraid of being lifted out of lockdown, Mr Johnson backs down."


    Step 4 sounds strangely familiar :)

    Amusing you say?

    Care to highlight the relevant parts?

    I'm sure there has been discussion before about right wing comedy / comedians.
    See my subtle clue above where I mention step 4 ;)

    Seems to have stirred up a few armchair experts...
    Ah OK.

    I guess that could be amusing if the criticism of the government was solely agenda driven.

    Unfortunately, the government has been pretty censored and has deserved a lot of criticism.
    You must not have heard about how well they did with the vaccine
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    morstar said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    morstar said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Amusing rationale in a recent paper article about the reason for the U-turns:

    "Forget the four steps of the Prime Minister’s roadmap. You don’t need a PhD to understand the formula of how every single government U-turn has come about.

    Step 1: Mr Johnson, conscious of the economic calamity being caused by lockdown and mindful of the timebomb of non-Covid conditions waiting to explode, calls for restrictions to be lifted.

    Step 2: Modellers release a worse-case scenario suggesting the NHS is in danger of being overwhelmed, if not now, then certainly by winter.

    Step 3: Scientific group thinkers perhaps motivated by a self-interest in lockdown that may have been influenced by socialist tendencies take to the airwaves insisting that the “irresponsible” Prime Minister is unnecessarily putting lives at risk.

    Step 4: The unions and opposition mobilise to suggest the #Toryscum of a Government is getting it wrong, aided by a largely Left-leaning Twitterati of middle-class armchair experts who quite like working from home.

    Step 5: Those with a dissenting view who dare to suggest the modellers may be overegging it are denounced as quacks while a letter, signed by their detractors, is submitted to the BMJ or The Lancet warning against the “dangerous and unethical” ditching of masks and social distancing.

    Step 6: Increasingly concerned by the growing media backlash, and persuaded by polling which unsurprisingly suggests that a terrified public is afraid of being lifted out of lockdown, Mr Johnson backs down."


    Step 4 sounds strangely familiar :)

    Amusing you say?

    Care to highlight the relevant parts?

    I'm sure there has been discussion before about right wing comedy / comedians.
    See my subtle clue above where I mention step 4 ;)

    Seems to have stirred up a few armchair experts...
    Ah OK.

    I guess that could be amusing if the criticism of the government was solely agenda driven.

    Unfortunately, the government has been pretty censored and has deserved a lot of criticism.
    You must not have heard about how well they did with the vaccine
    i heard that their Excel spreadsheet based track n trace system was rather mega.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,866
    Stevo_666 said:

    Amusing rationale in a recent paper article about the reason for the U-turns:

    "Forget the four steps of the Prime Minister’s roadmap. You don’t need a PhD to understand the formula of how every single government U-turn has come about.

    Step 1: Mr Johnson, conscious of the economic calamity being caused by lockdown and mindful of the timebomb of non-Covid conditions waiting to explode, calls for restrictions to be lifted.

    Step 2: Modellers release a worse-case scenario suggesting the NHS is in danger of being overwhelmed, if not now, then certainly by winter.

    Step 3: Scientific group thinkers perhaps motivated by a self-interest in lockdown that may have been influenced by socialist tendencies take to the airwaves insisting that the “irresponsible” Prime Minister is unnecessarily putting lives at risk.

    Step 4: The unions and opposition mobilise to suggest the #Toryscum of a Government is getting it wrong, aided by a largely Left-leaning Twitterati of middle-class armchair experts who quite like working from home.

    Step 5: Those with a dissenting view who dare to suggest the modellers may be overegging it are denounced as quacks while a letter, signed by their detractors, is submitted to the BMJ or The Lancet warning against the “dangerous and unethical” ditching of masks and social distancing.

    Step 6: Increasingly concerned by the growing media backlash, and persuaded by polling which unsurprisingly suggests that a terrified public is afraid of being lifted out of lockdown, Mr Johnson backs down."


    Step 4 sounds strangely familiar :)

    3. Is almost the definition of paranoia
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,391
    Interesting he's now stopped admitting it came from the Telegraph...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,515
    edited July 2021
    ddraver said:

    Interesting he's now stopped admitting it came from the Telegraph...

    It did, so what? And as you already knew that I thought i'd save typing it out ;)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,515

    Stevo_666 said:

    Amusing rationale in a recent paper article about the reason for the U-turns:

    "Forget the four steps of the Prime Minister’s roadmap. You don’t need a PhD to understand the formula of how every single government U-turn has come about.

    Step 1: Mr Johnson, conscious of the economic calamity being caused by lockdown and mindful of the timebomb of non-Covid conditions waiting to explode, calls for restrictions to be lifted.

    Step 2: Modellers release a worse-case scenario suggesting the NHS is in danger of being overwhelmed, if not now, then certainly by winter.

    Step 3: Scientific group thinkers perhaps motivated by a self-interest in lockdown that may have been influenced by socialist tendencies take to the airwaves insisting that the “irresponsible” Prime Minister is unnecessarily putting lives at risk.

    Step 4: The unions and opposition mobilise to suggest the #Toryscum of a Government is getting it wrong, aided by a largely Left-leaning Twitterati of middle-class armchair experts who quite like working from home.

    Step 5: Those with a dissenting view who dare to suggest the modellers may be overegging it are denounced as quacks while a letter, signed by their detractors, is submitted to the BMJ or The Lancet warning against the “dangerous and unethical” ditching of masks and social distancing.

    Step 6: Increasingly concerned by the growing media backlash, and persuaded by polling which unsurprisingly suggests that a terrified public is afraid of being lifted out of lockdown, Mr Johnson backs down."


    Step 4 sounds strangely familiar :)

    3. Is almost the definition of paranoia
    Still quite amusing though. Some people are pretending they haven't read point 4 :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,391
    IT DID???!!!

    I was joking 😂🤣😂🤣

    Good lord!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,707

  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,515
    ddraver said:

    IT DID???!!!

    I was joking 😂🤣😂🤣

    Good lord!

    Where did you think it was from? :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,515
    edited July 2021


    Rick, I see you've moved from hiding behind a sofa to hiding behind an armchair. I guess point 4 flushed you out :smiley:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,254
    It's missing step 7
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,254
    Also, this Johnson cove sounds a wrong 'un from the way his decision making process is described there.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,324
    edited July 2021
    Scientific group thinkers influenced by socialist tendencies? Phuck me! Talk about paranoia, I thought the liberals were bed wetters hiding behind sofas 😂
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Blind faith rosette worshippers accusing the scientific community of group think does belong in the irony thread.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,515

    Scientific group thinkers influenced by socialist tendencies? Phuck me! Talk about paranoia, I thought the liberals were bed wetters hiding behind sofas 😂

    What do you mean, 'thought'? :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,314
    Fantastic that you think this shows Boris in a good light.

    I guess it has ProMPtEd a ReAcTiON though so must be right.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,866

    Scientific group thinkers influenced by socialist tendencies? Phuck me! Talk about paranoia, I thought the liberals were bed wetters hiding behind sofas 😂

    That was the point I was trying to make.

    If it is a serious article then it helps to explain the thought processes of the, for want of a better expression, "covid-deniers"
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,707
    Regarding the " timebomb of non-Covid conditions" - what is that actually about?

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,254

    Regarding the " timebomb of non-Covid conditions" - what is that actually about?

    I assumed it was the cancers that haven't been caught early, but could be the backlog. Either way, I can't see why more covid helps.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,707
    I find increasingly there a whole separate lexicon of references and phrases when you read things like the telegraph nowadays.

  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190

    I find increasingly there a whole separate lexicon of references and phrases when you read things like the telegraph nowadays.

    That’s your age catching up to you.
    You no longer have your finger on the pulse and can appreciate being lumped in as a fossil with no independent thought capability.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,707
    edited July 2021
    morstar said:

    I find increasingly there a whole separate lexicon of references and phrases when you read things like the telegraph nowadays.

    That’s your age catching up to you.
    You no longer have your finger on the pulse and can appreciate being lumped in as a fossil with no independent thought capability.
    Probably, though correct me if I'm wrong, I don' think there are many young people reading the telegraph.

    It was more the bifurcation of news reporting and the discourse around it.

    There are references to whole ideas and arguments that don't even leave the political bubble and so never even get debated (like the covid-timebomb).
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,866

    I find increasingly there a whole separate lexicon of references and phrases when you read things like the telegraph nowadays.

    Count yourself lucky, most of the DT articles posted on here I can not tell if they are satirical.

    Does the author of that article truly think Covid is bigger up by scientists because they are all lefties and want to use it to advance their lefties agendas?

    For instance if you regularly read Clarkson in the ST you know he is making a general point but talking bollox to make it