Saddle options
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and makes you look like a clubbie perhaps?MattFalle said:adds 2mph top end.
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nah. clubbies love a spacer. it shows they went to a bike fit.ballysmate said:
and makes you look like a clubbie perhaps?MattFalle said:adds 2mph top end.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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best get on the Colombian dancing powder then. increase that cadence at minimal effort.johngti said:
Oh man, I wish I could drink red wine. Heck, I’d even make do with white. But I’ve been tea total for a year now on doctor’s orders. Hurts.MattFalle said:the key to flexibility is red wine.
the more you drink, the more flexible you become.
trust me, i'm like a medical man..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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On a teacher’s salary?! You’re having a larf, fam innit. Although it would help get me through my stupidly long working week…0
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johngti said:
On a teacher’s salary?! You’re having a larf, fam innit. Although it would help get me through my stupidly long working week…
Does that mean a new bike instead of just a saddle and 6 weeks in the summer to ride it?
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Now you come to mention it…
Best stick to getting a new saddle for now.0 -
<<Whispers>> Bike fit?johngti said:Given that saddles are a personal choice, I'm still having problems with mine and would appreciate a bit of guidance.
Best fit I've found that doesn't completely cripple me is the Giant contact saddle - 130mm wide, slight curve to it, standard sort of length. Problem I have is on the turbo where, within 20 minutes, I'm getting a fair amount of numbness. Obviously standing eases it but...
So, I'm wondering if something flat would help and/or a little wider. Any recommendations of a flatish saddle that's wider than 130mm? I don't mind doing an eBay trawl to get some cheaper used ones to try out but have no idea where to start!
It's just a hill. Get over it.0 -
Not against the idea but honestly can’t be bothered travelling to one and then paying the fortune they charge. A saddle fit would be better anyway - quite happy with my general bike fit.0
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If you're curious about fit, but don't want the schlep of paying $$$, try:
https://bikedynamics.co.uk/shop.htm
Costs about £4 to download the PDF fitting guide, and it's really quite good.
All you need is a turbo trainer, camera (phone or GoPro), and a few other basic bits n pieces (some software to draw lines and measure angles in your images is good).0 -
no.secretsam said:
<<Whispers>> Bike fit?johngti said:Given that saddles are a personal choice, I'm still having problems with mine and would appreciate a bit of guidance.
Best fit I've found that doesn't completely cripple me is the Giant contact saddle - 130mm wide, slight curve to it, standard sort of length. Problem I have is on the turbo where, within 20 minutes, I'm getting a fair amount of numbness. Obviously standing eases it but...
So, I'm wondering if something flat would help and/or a little wider. Any recommendations of a flatish saddle that's wider than 130mm? I don't mind doing an eBay trawl to get some cheaper used ones to try out but have no idea where to start!.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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For a guy who passed 4 years (the time that I've started riding seriously), searching for the perfect saddle (and have a spare dozen back on the garage for sale one of these days) I can share the following:
1. At first I've started with a regular saddle without a cutout. Didn't work for me (numbness and a hell of a pain in the glutes)
2. Since I thought that the pain on my glutes where from the lack of use (I was an unexperienced rider), I assumed that I had to deal with numbness and the glute pain would find its way once I became accustomed to do more miles on the bike, so I started to look for a cutout saddle.
3. Experimented about anything! From triathlon ISMs to common road saddles from many major brands excep one: Specialized (since I'm that kind of guy who doesn't like to wear something I see on every corner)
4. Even after taking biking a lot more seriously (I'm riding about 500/600 kms every week now and doing 2 hrs plus trainer sessions 2 days a week), my glute problem persisted to a point where I just didn't cry because of my ass pain because I was ashamed to do so!
5. About a year ago I've finally encountered a doctor who diagnosed my glute issue, and the solution was so easy that I couldn't believe the pain that I've suffered for so long: I had short piriformis muscles in my glutes who were compressing my nerves and causing my pain.
6. From that moment on I was able to sustain a wider range of saddles more easily, but I could certainly feel that the saddle that I used back then wasn't the best for me (a Prologo Nack 143)
7. I was then on a market for a wider saddle since for me it was apparent that I was better supported by a wider saddle.
8. At first I bought a Prologo Nack 155 but my intersection between my hamstrings and glutes were all sored out
9. Suspecting that the shape wasn't good for me and that the Power from Specialized had such good reviews I've decided to put my pride aside and try a test saddle. Hated it and thought that in the same category, both my Prologos were way better.
10. Thinking that the issue could be in the width and that I could solve my issues with an even wider saddle, I bought a Bontrager Verse in 165 mm. My hamstrings/glutes intersection continued to hammered.
11. New bike, new Bike Fit - Retul on a guy who is a renowned fitter in the country. Evaluated me and took all my measurements before putting me on the bike. Sitting me on the digital hip measuring tool from Retul he goes:
- You have a wrong saddle for your build and flexibility. You need a saddle that isn't flat like yours. You need a saddle that flares out from the sides and with some elevation to assist you on rotating your hips forward. You can't be wrong with a Power Arc but make sure you buy the 155 version.
I've told him that I've tried a Power and hated it, but he went to tell me that both saddles are miles apart, even if both seem very identical.
I talk with my LBS about what the fitter told me and that I was reluctant to buy a Power Arc after trying a Power with no success, but the guys at the LBS said:
- Was Hernani that advised you that saddle? Buy with confidence. No one who made a fit with him ever appeared to swap a saddle the he recommended.
And the truth is... That I finally have found my saddle (even if it's a Specialized!)
So... Sorry for the long post but the lesson here is: listen to what an expert has to tell you. Find a good one and you probably will find the solution to your issue.
Asking others for advice on saddles will not take YOU anywhere, since saddles are a very personal item (as everybody knows)
Hope that you find your way! Best!
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The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Just out of interest, how did he access you? Was it painful?naavt said:For a guy who passed 4 years (the time that I've started riding seriously), searching for the perfect saddle (and have a spare dozen back on the garage for sale one of these days) I can share the following:
1. At first I've started with a regular saddle without a cutout. Didn't work for me (numbness and a hell of a pain in the glutes)
2. Since I thought that the pain on my glutes where from the lack of use (I was an unexperienced rider), I assumed that I had to deal with numbness and the glute pain would find its way once I became accustomed to do more miles on the bike, so I started to look for a cutout saddle.
3. Experimented about anything! From triathlon ISMs to common road saddles from many major brands, probably excepting one: Specialized (since I'm that kind of a guy who doesn't like to wear something I see on every corner)
4. Even after taking biking a lot more seriously (I'm riding about 500/600 kms every week now and doing 2 hrs plus trainer sessions 2 days a week), my glute problem persisted to a point where I just didn't cry because of my censored pain because I was ashamed to do so!
5. About a year ago I've finally encounter a doctor who diagnosed my glute issue, and the solution was so easy that I couldn't believe the pain that I've suffered for so long: I had short piriformis muscles in my glutes who were compressing my nerves and causing my pain.
6. From that moment on I was able to sustain a wider range of saddles more easily, but I could certainly feel that the saddle that I used back then wasn't the best for me (a Prologo Nack 143)
7. I was then on a market for a wider saddle since for me it was apparent that I was better supported by a wider saddle.
8. At first I bought a Prologo Nack 155 but my intersection between my hamstrings and glutes were all sored out
9. Suspecting that the shape wasn't good for me and that the Power Arc from Specialized had such good reviews I've decided to put my pride aside and try a test saddle. Hated it and thought that in the same category, both my Prologos were way better.
10. Thinking that the issue could be in the width and that I could solve my issues with an even wider saddle, I bought a Bontrager Verse in 165 mm. My hamstrings/glutes intersection continued to hammered.
11. New bike, new Bike Fit - Retul on a guy who is a renowned fitter in the country. Accessed me and took all my measurements before putting me on the bike. Sitting me on the digital censored finder from Retul he goes:
- You have a wrong saddle for your build and flexibility. You need a saddle that isn't flat like yours. You need a saddle that flares out from the sides and with some elevation to assist you on rotating your hips forward. You can't be wrong with a Power Arc but make sure you buy the 155 version.
I've told him that I've tried a Power and hated it, but he went to tell me that both saddles are miles apart, even if both seem very identical.
I talk with my LBS about what the fitter told me and that I was reluctant to buy a Power Arc after trying a Power with no success, but the guys at the LBS said:
- Was Hernani that advised you that saddle? Buy with confidence. No one who made a fit with him ever appeared to swap a saddle the he recommended.
And the truth is... That I finally have found my saddle (even if it's a Specialized!)
So... Sorry for the long post but the lesson here is: listen to what an expert has to tell you. Find a good one and you probably will find the solution to your issue.
Asking others for advice on saddles will not take YOU anywhere, since saddles are a very personal item (as everybody knows)
Hope that you find your way! Best!
(point 11).The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Point taken (and corrected!) Always learning! You know that I once asked for a "rubber" in a room full of people when I was actually looking for an "eraser", but in my native language an eraser is directly translated as "rubber" which is clearly wrong!MattFalle said:
Just out of interest, how did he access you? Was it painful?naavt said:
Hope that you find your way! Best!
(point 11)
Anyway, more 2 points after yours:
12. I really wanted to see you talk my native language, and see if you are so "prolific" at it as I am with English
13. Even if English is not my native language I can certainly understand irony! Sometimes anyway... Cheers!
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In the UK, it's perfectly OK to ask for a "rubber", there might be a few sniggers but it's a generally accepted term.naavt said:
Point taken (and corrected!) Always learning! You know that I once asked for a "rubber" in a room full of people when I was actually looking for an "eraser", but in my native language an eraser is directly translated as "rubber" which is clearly wrong!MattFalle said:
Just out of interest, how did he access you? Was it painful?naavt said:
Hope that you find your way! Best!
(point 11)
Anyway, more 2 points after yours:
12. I really wanted to see you talk my native language, and see if you are so "prolific" at it as I am with English
13. Even if English is not my native language I can certainly understand irony! Sometimes anyway... Cheers!
Don't stress about your English, it's better than my French would be (that's the only other language I have, if you discount schoolboy Latin)
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I get numbness on my turbo trainer, not on the road,
Reason was I’m using a spec sirrus, and I was in a too upright position (stack and reach were the same mm)
Tried pointing nose down on saddle still the same, may help as was mentioned in dropping more spacers
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Might be a bit left-field, but have you thought of trying one of Sella SMP's saddles?0
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Often but it’d be an expensive experiment…mr.b-campag said:Might be a bit left-field, but have you thought of trying one of Sella SMP's saddles?
The selle italia seems pretty good for now, been out with it a few times. Also realised my seat was too high so I’ve fiddled with that now. Just need to try it.0 -
The Sunlite Cloud-9 Cruiser is certainly worth a look. Will give you a chuckle if nothing else.johngti said:
Often but it’d be an expensive experiment…mr.b-campag said:Might be a bit left-field, but have you thought of trying one of Sella SMP's saddles?
The selle italia seems pretty good for now, been out with it a few times. Also realised my seat was too high so I’ve fiddled with that now. Just need to try it.
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Yeah, I looked. Much merriment followed!First.Aspect said:
The Sunlite Cloud-9 Cruiser is certainly worth a look. Will give you a chuckle if nothing else.johngti said:
Often but it’d be an expensive experiment…mr.b-campag said:Might be a bit left-field, but have you thought of trying one of Sella SMP's saddles?
The selle italia seems pretty good for now, been out with it a few times. Also realised my seat was too high so I’ve fiddled with that now. Just need to try it.0
