yes, yes!
https://www.dolan-bikes.com/preffisio/
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It's actual reasonable money too, relative to the absolutely mental prices around at the moment.1
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It’s basically a proper bike.Ben
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Are they not selling as a frameset?
I fundamentally disagree with buying a winter bike - it is a truth universally acknowledged that a winter bike should consist of bits and pieces harvested from parts bins, old bikes, skips, mates' old bikes, bottoms of canals and hedgerows0 -
Good old Preffesio. Built this but my 15 year old daughter nicked it.
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rubbish.jpj84 said:Are they not selling as a frameset?
I fundamentally disagree with buying a winter bike - it is a truth universally acknowledged that a winter bike should consist of bits and pieces harvested from parts bins, old bikes, skips, mates' old bikes, bottoms of canals and hedgerows
a winter bike is whatever ypu have/want it to be.
my S3 and Prince are my winter bikes - I just clean and maintaon them properly.
I'm too old, too fast, too good looking and too cycling time poor to ride junk..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I’m hazarding a guess that he was having a little joke. The part about canals and hedgerows was the give-away.MattFalle said:
a winter bike is whatever ypu have/want it to be.
my S3 and Prince are my winter bikes - I just clean and maintaon them properly.
I'm too old, too fast, too good looking and too cycling time poor to ride junk.
What is the Prince that you referred to? Is it a Pinarello Prince and if so, what’s it like because they’ve caught my true. TIA.
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They do sell it as a frameset, £ 299left the forum March 20230
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threaded BB shell, straight 1 and 1/8 fork steerer and external cable routing, basically a dream frameset to build, with none of that modern nonsense...
I'd buy one now... if I didn't already have a Prefissio to build up, that I got as a bargain on Ebay a few months back
I hope it's not a fling that they stop next year... it'd be nice if they kept doing it, so that there will always be a back up option if you don't want to get sucked in the millionaires clubleft the forum March 20230 -
Hopefully other manufacturers will follow, disc brakes on road bikes to me are just a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist aka marketing.0
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A proper bike at last.0
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I think the hedge bit was the only part that was meant to be "humerous". Everything else was deadset serious we believe.darrell1967 said:
What is the Prince that you referred to? Is it a Pinarello Prince and if so, what’s it like because they’ve caught my true. TIA.
Yes, it is a Prince. 2001 job as displayed in these hallowed pages before. They be frickin'lovely, see..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Only a matter of time now before you get a fatigue crack somewhere on that frame. I had a direct copy, built by the same welder who worked for Pinarello, from the same tubes. Old now extinct Canadian Italian brand. Anyhow, is now an ornament.MattFalle said:
Yes, it is a Prince. 2001 job as displayed in these hallowed pages before. They be frickin'lovely, see.0 -
From the website:How much does the Preffisio weigh?
This 7005 triple butted aluminium frame weighs approximately .kg on a 54cm frame/Fork
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Yeah... most manufacturers lie anyway. You can assume that a 54 will be 1.7 kg + fork... the fork in question is 560 grams.rick_chasey said:left the forum March 20231 -
Looks like they've tweeked the Preffisio design. The rear brake bridge and forks on my older model are too low for 28-30mm tyres which always bugged me for a winter bike. Also with a rear mudguard it wouldn't leave enough clearance for 25mm tyres- had adapt mine by splitting the mudguard and adding stainless brackets. Tough old frame though.0
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Don't care. Am going to use it and enjoy it and if/when it breaks it'll look pretty.First.Aspect said:
Anyhow, its mega and yours was obviouslyshit, so mine will last forever..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I recently built up a Ridley (pretty similar design to above frame) and that does as my winter bike. Frameset was £249 then used most of the bits off my crashed 531.
Very similar to above, 57mm calipers needed, will only take 25mm tyres if you fit mudguards.
Came equipped for winter bike building with eyelets etc.
Thoroughly pleased with it. There are some "normal" bikes out there you just need to find them!0 -
Don't you find it odd that the industry keeps churning out gravel bikes, when nobody I know has a decent stretch of gravel road within cycling distance, but refuses to come out with bikes that people would actually enjoy riding?womack said:I recently built up a Ridley (pretty similar design to above frame) and that does as my winter bike. Frameset was £249 then used most of the bits off my crashed 531.
Very similar to above, 57mm calipers needed, will only take 25mm tyres if you fit mudguards.
Came equipped for winter bike building with eyelets etc.
Thoroughly pleased with it. There are some "normal" bikes out there you just need to find them!left the forum March 20232 -
It is very popular in the US, Ugo, and there are 5 times as many Americans as us.ugo.santalucia said:0 -
and people actually enjoy riding their bikes Ugo - we're not all into mudguards, panniers and sensible.
if i wanted sensible i'd buy a cardigan.
people want dull stuff like yours? cool, let them.
they want gravel? cool, let them.
they want a carbon penny farthing with EPS? cool, let them.
so long as they are out doing it thats the main thing..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I'm not sure the market is doing what people want... it seems to me they try to get people to buy what they want to produce (which might be more profitable). I know people who bought gravel bikes out of impulse, but they never really rode them as such. They used the canal path twice, claimed it was great and then went back to riding on roads and forgot about the gravel bike.MattFalle said:and people actually enjoy riding their bikes Ugo - we're not all into mudguards, panniers and sensible.
if i wanted sensible i'd buy a cardigan.
people want dull stuff like yours? cool, let them.
they want gravel? cool, let them.
they want a carbon penny farthing with EPS? cool, let them.
so long as they are out doing it thats the main thing.
BTW... the above is not necessarily a mudguards bike... it's a bike that suits someone who enjoys mechanical work, without having to spend thousands on toolsleft the forum March 20231 -
I'm with you, for me personally there is no attraction in a gravel bike. I ride 99.9% of my time on roads so a road bike is for me.ugo.santalucia said:
BTW... the above is not necessarily a mudguards bike... it's a bike that suits someone who enjoys mechanical work, without having to spend thousands on tools
Agree also about cost effectiveness, I built the Ridley with the old Sora triple set up from the donor bike and it suits me down to the ground, 8 speed stuff appears a lot cheaper to replace when bits are needed.
I was looking at replacing the cassette on my other bike (11 speed Ultegra) and the price was frightening!! It can last another year!
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ugo.santalucia said:
100% this.
I did quite fancy a gravel bike as something different to road but then I genuinely would have no clue where to ride the thing & TBH can't be bothered working it out either.1 -
I find it's mainly cycle trails - old railway lines that sort of thing. Agree it is a bit limited - maybe there are areas with more trails than there are round here.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]1
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Yes, those lovely areas where nobody lives in the Highlands and in Wales... majority of potential customers with pockets deep enough to spend 3 grand on a gravel bike live in areas where they can't use one... and that is probably true in the US too...DeVlaeminck said:I find it's mainly cycle trails - old railway lines that sort of thing. Agree it is a bit limited - maybe there are areas with more trails than there are round here.
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so an expert of the economics of demographics as well.....
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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its a thang, as they say. stop trying to impose your boringness on people who something a bit different.
they work
its their money
let them spend it how they want
not everyone wants a boring Dolan..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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It really isn't true in the US.ugo.santalucia said:
Also, gravel bikes are good for the single track stuff that mountain bikers no longer find challenging enough.1 -
they're also perfect for trail leading and cutting around rural areas on the way to work..
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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ugo.santalucia said:
Really?
You’ll obviously have some data / statistics to back that up?0