Emonda vs disc ti

phelim21

Thinking of buying a new frameset and been looking at these 2 options. I've a vitus zx1 and find it so uncomfortable. The bike will be used for training and a wee bit of racing next Yr. The concern I have is the ti frame will be dull and boring.

MattFalle

how do you mean dull and boring?

to look at or to ride?

phelim21

To ride

MattFalle

why would you say that? have you ridden a ti bike before?

First.Aspect

Emondas are very wooden.

MattFalle

Why would you expect a carbon bike to be more interesting and less boring than ti?

My S3 doesn't exactly give me a stiffie whereas the Prince gives huge giggles and that is scandium.

webboo

Ti frames are fine if you like to get off every few miles to check whether you have a rear wheel puncture.

joe_totale-2

I'd get to the bottom first of why you're finding your current bike so uncomfortable.

Maybe get one of those bike fits where they can also advise you on the bikes that would suit your geometry?

First.Aspect

Oh yes, get a bike fit. That's the answer to everything.

First.Aspect

I've got a bike with a stiff front end. Transfers the vibrations to my hands.

I think I will get a bike fit.

MattFalle

yup. the panacea to all evils allegedly for only a few hundred notes to raise/lower your saddle and fit a longer/shorter stem.

joe_totale-2

Hah, just the first thing that came to my mid given the OP was complaining of riding an uncomfortable bike. Just as likely they have too much air in their tyres!

First.Aspect

joe_totale-2 said:

Hah, just the first thing that came to my mid given the OP was complaining of riding an uncomfortable bike. Just as likely they have too much air in their tyres!

Would a bike fit help me to determine the right tyre pressure?

MattFalle

joe_totale-2 said:

Hah, just the first thing that came to my mid given the OP was complaining of riding an uncomfortable bike. Just as likely they have too much air in their tyres!

What would you say was too much air in their tyres? Can you define an exact psi please so I can check mine.

joe_totale-2

MattFalle said:

joe_totale-2 said:

Hah, just the first thing that came to my mid given the OP was complaining of riding an uncomfortable bike. Just as likely they have too much air in their tyres!

What would you say was too much air in their tyres? Can you define an exact psi please so I can check mine.

No idea, I was being frivolous.

MattFalle

frovility can be the greatest luxury that leads to misinformation and onwards.

#carelesswordscostlives

elbowloh

MattFalle said:

frovility can be the greatest luxury that leads to misinformation and onwards.

#carelesswordscostlives

Loose lips sink ships.

darrell1967

Nice to see that some members are here to help other cyclists out.

First.Aspect

darrell1967 said:

Nice to see that some members are here to help other cyclists out.

Membership is free. You get what you pay for.

Anyway, I did. If he wants something exciting, an Emonda is not a good choice.

Perfectly well cooked, but lacks seasoning, as Greg would say.

MattFalle

darrell1967 said:

Nice to see that some members are here to help other cyclists out.

we are but if he doesn't define what he classes as dull and boring then how much more can we help?

we have addressed the issues raised.

how did your post help anything by the way?

MattFalle

darrell1967 said:

Nice to see that some members are here to help other cyclists out.

can you help re tyre pressures out of interest?

darrell1967

MattFalle said:

darrell1967 said:

Nice to see that some members are here to help other cyclists out.

can you help re tyre pressures out of interest?

I can’t help out at all when it comes to bike advice.

wongataa

MattFalle said:

joe_totale-2 said:

Hah, just the first thing that came to my mid given the OP was complaining of riding an uncomfortable bike. Just as likely they have too much air in their tyres!

What would you say was too much air in their tyres? Can you define an exact psi please so I can check mine.

It depends on the tyre size, bike weight, rider weight, and surface you ride on.

shirley_basso

So what PSI then?

MattFalle said:

joe_totale-2 said:

Hah, just the first thing that came to my mid given the OP was complaining of riding an uncomfortable bike. Just as likely they have too much air in their tyres!

What would you say was too much air in their tyres? Can you define an exact psi please so I can check mine.

87. You can use the bluetooth enabled tyre gauge to ensure it is never too low.

https://www.bikeinn.com/bike/quarq-tyrewiz-for-presta-valve-2-units/136942419/p?utm_source=google_products&utm_medium=merchant&id_producte=7535093&country=uk&gclid=Cj0KCQjwna2FBhDPARIsACAEc_UxCC8LKAagLI8H4yZmtIQkOSJKmREOzD-fGhbu3huS0SCevzsD6ccaAhnqEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

MattFalle

wongataa said:

MattFalle said:

joe_totale-2 said:

Hah, just the first thing that came to my mid given the OP was complaining of riding an uncomfortable bike. Just as likely they have too much air in their tyres!

What would you say was too much air in their tyres? Can you define an exact psi please so I can check mine.

It depends on the tyre size, bike weight, rider weight, and surface you ride on.

thanks for that but nah.

MattFalle

shirley_basso said:

So what PSI then?

MattFalle said:

joe_totale-2 said:

Hah, just the first thing that came to my mid given the OP was complaining of riding an uncomfortable bike. Just as likely they have too much air in their tyres!

What would you say was too much air in their tyres? Can you define an exact psi please so I can check mine.

87. You can use the bluetooth enabled tyre gauge to ensure it is never too low.

https://www.bikeinn.com/bike/quarq-tyrewiz-for-presta-valve-2-units/136942419/p?utm_source=google_products&utm_medium=merchant&id_producte=7535093&country=uk&gclid=Cj0KCQjwna2FBhDPARIsACAEc_UxCC8LKAagLI8H4yZmtIQkOSJKmREOzD-fGhbu3huS0SCevzsD6ccaAhnqEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

and a bargain price too - consider them bought - grazie!

shirley_basso

And some say we aren't helpful....

MattFalle

they obviously don't have any idea what they are talking about.

full of useful stuff us be.

mrb123

MattFalle said:

shirley_basso said:

So what PSI then?

MattFalle said:

joe_totale-2 said:

Hah, just the first thing that came to my mid given the OP was complaining of riding an uncomfortable bike. Just as likely they have too much air in their tyres!

What would you say was too much air in their tyres? Can you define an exact psi please so I can check mine.

87. You can use the bluetooth enabled tyre gauge to ensure it is never too low.

https://www.bikeinn.com/bike/quarq-tyrewiz-for-presta-valve-2-units/136942419/p?utm_source=google_products&utm_medium=merchant&id_producte=7535093&country=uk&gclid=Cj0KCQjwna2FBhDPARIsACAEc_UxCC8LKAagLI8H4yZmtIQkOSJKmREOzD-fGhbu3huS0SCevzsD6ccaAhnqEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

and a bargain price too - consider them bought - grazie!

But what do they weigh??

phelim21

They are tubeless and 80-85 psi. What I mean by dull and boring is that I like a bike to be comfortable but still have a bit of response when I need it if that makes sense

MattFalle

mrb123 said:

MattFalle said:

shirley_basso said:

So what PSI then?

MattFalle said:

joe_totale-2 said:

Hah, just the first thing that came to my mid given the OP was complaining of riding an uncomfortable bike. Just as likely they have too much air in their tyres!

What would you say was too much air in their tyres? Can you define an exact psi please so I can check mine.

87. You can use the bluetooth enabled tyre gauge to ensure it is never too low.

https://www.bikeinn.com/bike/quarq-tyrewiz-for-presta-valve-2-units/136942419/p?utm_source=google_products&utm_medium=merchant&id_producte=7535093&country=uk&gclid=Cj0KCQjwna2FBhDPARIsACAEc_UxCC8LKAagLI8H4yZmtIQkOSJKmREOzD-fGhbu3huS0SCevzsD6ccaAhnqEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

and a bargain price too - consider them bought - grazie!

But what do they weigh??

not sure but I reckon if needs be I can work out how to remove the bluetooth to save weight.