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  • seanoconn
    seanoconn Posts: 11,688
    MattFalle said:

    seanoconn said:



    When I said KAS kit I meant, KAS top, PDM hat, Toshiba gloves and Bermuda shorts 😎 Boom!

    And you dare question my English language speaking 80’s winners quiz answer.

    Yes I know that was Carrera which I also had.

    are you wearing school shoes?
    Look like Reebok. Wouldn’t have gotten away with them at my school.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,381
    webboo said:

    You can remember things from 30 years ago. I should give you a like for that if I hadn’t already given you one.

    They say long term memory returns as the compensation for losing short term memory as you get older. 😉
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • me-109
    me-109 Posts: 1,915
    Was this pre-Campag? That would have been Mavic and Modolo kit then, I think. Mavic starfish chainset or earlier?
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,381
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508
    pinno said:

    I have this deep pang in the stomach... for a Team KAS, Kelly replica build.

    Need some assistance in identifying bits. I know of the Mavic rear mech and you can get them. Apparently (and I was told this in a Cambridge cycle shop) in 1987, they were 'totally strippable' but that's just a curious aside.
    What was the chainset?
    What were the hubs and rims?
    What was the headset and BB?
    I could make it a whole lot easier by buying a complete Croce D'aune gruppo, although it wouldn't be a KAS replica but it would solve a whole load of headaches and I would have an excuse to hang some Delta brakes on it (even though they are awful but a pair of Swiss stop just might make them actually work).

    I am biding my time trying to find a 56/57cm Vitus carbon 9 frameset.

    It’s a great idea. I’d like to build a Raleigh banana. I was always envious of the one that my cousins had in the 80s. Ten speed it was, pedal clips and everything. Made my five speed seem inadequate (which isn’t entirely fair, my parents got me the best they could afford but we lived in Ruthin in north Wales so hills in every direction).

    I have a picture of me with my 80s bike. Note the knife that, as a good Boy Scout I had with me at all times (except school, obvs) and which I’d sharpened to the point of uselessness. And one of the next door neighbours’ kids.




  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,381
    edited May 2021
    johngti said:


    It’s a great idea. I’d like to build a Raleigh banana.

    Like this? 😉 Maybe higher spec? This one was only 531c throughout complete with 105, Weinmann wheels, Cinelli finishing and a Turbo saddle.
    Correction - Weinmann rims on 105 hubs.


    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • seanoconn
    seanoconn Posts: 11,688
    Great pic John 👍

    The little boy in me is envious of the knife and sheath. I would have that pinched and been stabbed with it in my neighbourhood.
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  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508
    pblakeney said:

    johngti said:


    It’s a great idea. I’d like to build a Raleigh banana.

    Like this? 😉 Maybe higher spec? This one was only 531c throughout complete with 105, Weinmann wheels, Cinelli finishing and a Turbo saddle.


    Very much like that!
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,396
    pblakeney said:
    That's a great link you have found Blakey, thank you very much - I am copy/pasting the specs in case the link goes bad:

    Frame set VITUS FCKC-9 Kevlar/Carbone, RH 53
    Fork VITUS 979 Aluminium
    decals KAS Vitus / MAVIC
    headset Mavic 305
    stem MAVIC 370, 95mm
    bar MAVIC 350 - 420 mm
    tape in Velox white
    seat post VITUS original 25.0 mm
    saddle Selle San Marco Concor
    brakes MAVIC 451 Aero (Dia Compe)
    shifters MAVIC 820 (Simplex)
    brak calibers MAVIC 440 SSC
    bottle cages TA Specialites
    front derailleur Mavic 861
    Crank set MAVIC 630 - double 53/42z
    Bottom bracket Mavic 612, axle 116 mm
    Pedals MAVIC 640 SSC inkl. Christophe cages
    stripes Christophe, white leather
    quick releaser MAVIC origin
    tubulars Vittoria Corsa SC
    Rims MAVIC SSC tubular bleu
    hubs MAVIC RD 500 front and rear
    Cassette Maillard 7-speed screwed cogs
    rear derailleur MAVIC 851 SSC
    chain vintage looking 7-speed
    Total weight 8.93 Kgs - really
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,396
    me-109 said:

    Was this pre-Campag? That would have been Mavic and Modolo kit then, I think. Mavic starfish chainset or earlier?

    Before PB had posted that link, I had ascertained a few bits and pieces.
    According to CW, Kelly never rode the Carbon 9, only the 979 Durilanox. So that's a thing.

    '....he won races on the Vitus 979 right up until his second and final Milan-San Remo victory in 1992'.

    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/icons-of-cycling-sean-kellys-cobble-busting-vitus-979-194179

    I remember attending the Eastbourne Rovers TT's and the two female triathletes that used to go and were sponsored by Phoenix Cycles had Vitus Carbon 9's. I used to drool over them (and the bikes :smiley: ).
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,396
    edited May 2021
    Here's another link (though it wasn't followed up) but at least there's a pic of the groupset:

    https://lecycleur.com/restauration/building-a-1988-vitus-kas-in-honour-of-sean-kelly/

    @veronese68 : the Croce D'Aune @ roughly £550 actually works out cheaper given that the Mavic brake levers and original Modolo brakes i've found so far are eye watering.
    But it wouldn't be as much of a KAS replica.

    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    The Raleigh Team banana was my dream bike growing up, even though I wasn't really a roadie. I just liked the look of them.
    Felt F1 2014
    Felt Z6 2012
    Red Arthur Caygill steel frame
    Tall....
    www.seewildlife.co.uk
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    I've been tempted to build a modern Team Banana for ages - get a modern v v cool round tubed horizontal top tube frame (CAAD? Chinese carbon?), respray in Banana colours, Force 1x, phat deep rims, tan walls, slam dat stem....

    I reckon it would be mega.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    979 Duralinox? Hasn't MF got one of those?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    MattFalle said:

    979 Duralinox? Hasn't MF got one of those?

    I dunno. Ask him.
    Felt F1 2014
    Felt Z6 2012
    Red Arthur Caygill steel frame
    Tall....
    www.seewildlife.co.uk
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    He says he doesn't know really what is is, its just v cool.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    What are they worth anyway?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Wheelspinner
    Wheelspinner Posts: 6,705
    One for sale here for 1200 AUD (a 979 that is)
    Open One+ BMC TE29 Seven 622SL On One Scandal Cervelo RS
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Soooo, £700. Grazie!
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,396
    Deep rims on a Raleigh banana?!

    It's a good job I know you're a little bit bonkers because some people take you seriously.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • Wheelspinner
    Wheelspinner Posts: 6,705
    Popped up in my FB feed again today for sale...


    Open One+ BMC TE29 Seven 622SL On One Scandal Cervelo RS
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,396
    That is beautiful.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,836
    pinno said:

    That is beautiful.

    Frame looks great, the gold bits let it down looks wise. Build it with Croce d'Aune and it will look better, be easier to source the bits and be cheaper. Win, win, win
    Minor details about incorrect spec apart.
  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508
    Been some lovely bikes here. Reminded me that another that I’d be keen to have a go at is a ron Cooper frame. He had a workshop about half a mile from here so the local connection is tempting
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited May 2021
    Bit more P/V for you here.

    Scroll down as some piccies have been lost

    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/20020168#Comment_20020168
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508
    MattFalle said:

    Bit more P/V for you here.

    Scroll down as some piccies have been lost

    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/20020168#Comment_20020168

    Fair play, that’s a stunner.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    johngti said:

    MattFalle said:

    Bit more P/V for you here.

    Scroll down as some piccies have been lost

    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/20020168#Comment_20020168

    Fair play, that’s a stunner.
    grazie. lives in the loft with two flat tyres. never been ridden as its in the loft with two flat tyres.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • seanoconn
    seanoconn Posts: 11,688
    MattFalle said:

    elbowloh said:

    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    Ahem, isn’t a 56/57 likely to be a little large for you?

    ? Why do people think i'm a short @rse? I am bang on average for a male in the UK.
    My Colnago C40 is a 57cm, It's roughly... 1 cm too big though that 1cm might be abhorrent to certain pedants/people on the autistic spectrum/nerds, I don't give a farq.

    Cheers Blakey - i'm glad i've got someone's support.
    [Insert rolling eyes icon]
    Oooh, sensitive much? Because you apparently weigh sod all, and unless you are anorexically thin I assumed that meant you’re about 5’8” , give or take a bee’s willy.

    I’m 6’0 and find almost all 56’s a fraction large for me.

    Short legs? Short arms?


    Neither, am quite beautifully proportioned. :-) I just prefer the handling feel of a frame that is as small as it can reasonably be while still giving me the fit that is comfortable, and I find that is best suited to a 55-ish with a slightly taller than normal stack.

    I had a Colnago E1 which was fabulous to ride, but was a 57. If I could have found one in a 55 it would have been my perfect bike.
    Therein lies the subjective.
    I prefer a frame that isn't as small as it can be.
    I have quite long arms which makes me a) a knuckle dragger and b) I struggle with top tube lengths.

    I think and I have found, taller riders place different stresses on a bike. I have a mate (6'4") and the only cf frames he got on with was Giant and a BMC.
    My other friend, 6'2" bought a Jamis and a Spesh both CF and he hates them, much prefers steel.

    6'5" and have a 61cm felt f1 and a 61cm felt Z5, both fit brilliantly.
    6'5?

    seriously?

    are you some kind of gargantuan?
    Tallest BBer in history!
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,396
    Cheers for that. I do have a few on the watch list but...

    You see, if you lot didn't want silly money for old Porker front struts and brake cover plates...
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!