Fake News in cycling

phreak

RichN95. said:

Another bit of fake news is the idea that Bernard Hinault, when winning the Tour, was an attacking rider. The results suggest that he was actually a dominant TTer who minimised his loses (usually to Zoetemelk) in the mountains. When he came up against a decent TTer (Fignon/LeMond) he lost

Think he won 6 non-TT stages in the Tour though, which is more than many "pure climbers" would win (twice what Contador managed to win, for instance).

tailwindhome

RichN95. said:

tailwindhome said:

As good a thread as any to post this

It's not correct though. Jos Van Aert is Wout's father's cousin.

RichN95.

phreak said:

RichN95. said:

Another bit of fake news is the idea that Bernard Hinault, when winning the Tour, was an attacking rider. The results suggest that he was actually a dominant TTer who minimised his loses (usually to Zoetemelk) in the mountains. When he came up against a decent TTer (Fignon/LeMond) he lost

Think he won 6 non-TT stages in the Tour though, which is more than many "pure climbers" would win (twice what Contador managed to win, for instance).

They were mostly bunch sprints though. He only won two mountain stages. One LeMond gifted him and the other was when he was already 9 minutes up on GC

phreak

RichN95. said:

phreak said:

RichN95. said:

Another bit of fake news is the idea that Bernard Hinault, when winning the Tour, was an attacking rider. The results suggest that he was actually a dominant TTer who minimised his loses (usually to Zoetemelk) in the mountains. When he came up against a decent TTer (Fignon/LeMond) he lost

Think he won 6 non-TT stages in the Tour though, which is more than many "pure climbers" would win (twice what Contador managed to win, for instance).

They were mostly bunch sprints though. He only won two mountain stages. One LeMond gifted him and the other was when he was already 9 minutes up on GC

I can't have Hinault being anything other than a badass. Sorry.

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mididoctors

RichN95. said:

There's a book by a Dutchman called Benjo Maso that examines the relationship between the media and cycling throughout the ages and the legends that arise called "The Sweat of the Gods".


Aside form that, there's a lot of nonsense about the 'unwritten rules', such as waiting for a star who crashed. No-one waited before Armstrong waited for Ullrich, probably to patronise him.

Indurain, jalabert were involved in wait and no wait castigation drama

phreak

mididoctors said:

RichN95. said:

There's a book by a Dutchman called Benjo Maso that examines the relationship between the media and cycling throughout the ages and the legends that arise called "The Sweat of the Gods".


Aside form that, there's a lot of nonsense about the 'unwritten rules', such as waiting for a star who crashed. No-one waited before Armstrong waited for Ullrich, probably to patronise him.

Indurain, jalabert were involved in wait and no wait castigation drama

To be fair, in that race it was all part of the theatre for Marco to gift the others a head start.

mididoctors

phreak said:

mididoctors said:

RichN95. said:

There's a book by a Dutchman called Benjo Maso that examines the relationship between the media and cycling throughout the ages and the legends that arise called "The Sweat of the Gods".


Aside form that, there's a lot of nonsense about the 'unwritten rules', such as waiting for a star who crashed. No-one waited before Armstrong waited for Ullrich, probably to patronise him.

Indurain, jalabert were involved in wait and no wait castigation drama

To be fair, in that race it was all part of the theatre for Marco to gift the others a head start.

Paris nice 97 lead to a 3 way spat between banesto once and Telekom that lasted all year