US Politics / Biden thread
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essay on the usa and the disconnect between people and parties that enables trump et al. to gain power, imo there's a fair correspondence with the uk, though here i'd say the decline began earlier, and many other 'developed' nations
no easy answers on offer, trump certainly has none
undoing issues that have been building (and accelerating) for decades probably would take decades, and barring extreme measures (think xi/putin), i don't see how the massive wealth transfer to a tiny minority could effectively be addressed
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I had to double check as I assumed that the word 'egregious' had changed to mean 'completely fabricated'.
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Sadly not...
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Is it possible to have an egregious exaggeration?
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As Pauline in 'The League of Gentlemen says', "Oh Mickey love, what is egregious?".
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I wouldn't mind having a decent right-leaning newspaper like the Telegraph used to be to give balance, but the Telegraph of today is just the Daily Mail with longer words and more double-barreled names. There's barely any news in it. I only read it for amusement, not least as I think it takes itself seriously.
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I wonder when we will start to get full AI news. Just scrape the web/social media for information in the last couple of hours and formulate multiple synopsis. Make sure the algorithms are not bias and Humanity is better informed.
Take hundreds of tweets cross check them, do the same for other social media.
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Is that not already happening?
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I don't think at a minimal Human level, also selecting the news with a non bias stance. That goes for constructing it too.
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LLMs are as biased as the stuff fed into them, which is all produced by people with biases. Afraid you are still going to have to think when you read the news.
And yes, Google now inserts an AI summary at the top of each search, which I ignore as I've seen first-hand how wrong LLM generated content can be.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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I've already explained it, it's pointless going back over it.
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I used to like Radio 3 news - it was minimal, read out by a typical R3 presenter back then, unemotive, and as factual as it's possible to be, with no conjecture or vox pops. Hence it was mercifully short.
I'm happy for news sources to have biases as soon as you expand on the bare facts, but I do expect them not to lie to me, to do at least some basic journalism (including fact-checking), and not put profit above principles.
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Not sure you've done anything but continue to give the impression of someone failing to understand ai
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i.e. letting generative ai systems scrape each others' nonsense, spiked with human-originated lies, error and misinformation, to produce even more nonsense
you clearly have a profound lack of understanding of the role of journalism in society, people with courage, integrity, the will to bear witness and seek out the truth, are important for a healthy, free and open society
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times will do that for you. Take a look their position on the election - couldn’t bring themselves back starmer.
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Ah OK. Used to buy it from time to time, pre-Murdoch (yes, I'm old). Suspect that their paywall is rather better than the Telegraph's (which relies purely on Javascript being enabled on the receiving device - their security is as good as their journalism).
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PS, RC - I hope things are better today for you than yesterday.
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I've told you already it's intelligent and artificial.
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I think you might need to define what 'intelligent' means.
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No, you clearly have a lack of understanding of bias in the media. It's so clear you can see right to the bottom and I'm talking a good twenty odd foot.
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And what's more, you did lnt attribute quality to AI journalism. Which is rather the issue.
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The rise of ai presents some super interesting questions about the nature of intelligence.
In some ways, I think ai is to intelligence as artificial sweetener is to sugars. Occasionally you can't tell the difference, but all too often, it's abundantly fake.
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Whilst I'm sure that there are amazing things going on with AI, reading vaguely up-to-date stuff about what the human brain does rather puts the hype into focus. One of the themes I continually return to working with pupils is that all the most awesome things the brain does - not least to navigate the world of the body it's hosted by, and learn to use human language to make sense of that world and to share/negotiate with other conscious brains - is still only partially understood, and quite miraculous. Ironically, it appears that emotions might actually be an integral part of that 'making sense of the world' and negotiating it, and not just some annoying extra. I'm not sure I want AI to have emotions, as such, Dr Spock, but without them, I'm not sure that the 'intelligence' will be up to the job.
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Disclaimer - I might be enjoying the CdR a little more than is sensible tonight. But I am having an easier day tomorrow, so hope I might be excused (and get away with it).
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Interesting little article on polling in the usa and how if they are over estimating Harris' support as much as they over estimated Biden's in 2020 Trump is still on course to win.
Chances are they will be closer this time but it's interesting how many factors they take into account now in desperately trying to predict the outcome rather than trying to get a random sample and presenting the results.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/08/election-polls-2020-mistakes/679545/
[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
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Yeah but that's a British bookie (or so went your argument)
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Polls I'm seeing seem to have Harris ahead - bookies look like they are evens - Skybet they are both 10/11. Are people betting on the polls being wrong or Harris' lead being a "new manager bounce"
[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
Meh, the system favours republican votes so democrats needs to really outperform on the popular vote to be competitive.
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God this is a dull refrain.
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