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David Walsh and Pippa York talk doping

alan_aalan_a Posts: 1,510
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When Pipa said on ITV coverage that she was travelling with David Walsh I wondered if this article to appear.

Eloquent as ever from York about her times riding as Millar.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/philippa-york-interview-doping-it-was-cheating-and-all-of-us-were-doing-it-8jbmqp92m
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  • photonic69photonic69 Posts: 1,871
    Wish people wouldn’t link to stories on sites that require a subscription to read! :/
  • 50x1150x11 Posts: 408
    photonic69 said:

    Wish people wouldn’t link to stories on sites that require a subscription to read! :/

    Plenty of ways round paywalls.
  • alan_aalan_a Posts: 1,510
    photonic69 said:

    Wish people wouldn’t link to stories on sites that require a subscription to read! :/

    Sorry.

    Not sorry 🙄😉
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  • surrey_commutersurrey_commuter Posts: 17,722
    alan_a said:

    photonic69 said:

    Wish people wouldn’t link to stories on sites that require a subscription to read! :/

    Sorry.

    Not sorry 🙄😉
    Interesting theory that the performance of the youngsters is proof the peloton in now clean as previously could not compete without several years of doping behind them
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 26,527
    surrey_commuter said:

    alan_a said:

    photonic69 said:

    Wish people wouldn’t link to stories on sites that require a subscription to read! :/

    Sorry.

    Not sorry 🙄😉
    Interesting theory that the performance of the youngsters is proof the peloton in now clean as previously could not compete without several years of doping behind them

    At 21 Armstrong was World Champion. at 22 Ullrich came second in the Tour, at 23 Valverde was third in the Vuelta and second in the Worlds
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  • nickicenickice Posts: 2,439
    surrey_commuter said:

    alan_a said:

    photonic69 said:

    Wish people wouldn’t link to stories on sites that require a subscription to read! :/

    Sorry.

    Not sorry 🙄😉
    Interesting theory that the performance of the youngsters is proof the peloton in now clean as previously could not compete without several years of doping behind them
    Greg Lemond always said that if you're good, you're good from the beginning. If I'm not mistaken, before the EPO era it wasn't uncommon for riders in their early twenties to win GTs
  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 18,085
    Does this contain a doping confession?
  • alan_aalan_a Posts: 1,510
    TheBigBean said:

    Does this contain a doping confession?

    Yes
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  • amrushtonamrushton Posts: 1,188
    Not as if it was a surprise. You did it or go home.
    RichN95. said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    alan_a said:

    photonic69 said:

    Wish people wouldn’t link to stories on sites that require a subscription to read! :/

    Sorry.

    Not sorry 🙄😉
    Interesting theory that the performance of the youngsters is proof the peloton in now clean as previously could not compete without several years of doping behind them

    At 21 Armstrong was World Champion. at 22 Ullrich came second in the Tour, at 23 Valverde was third in the Vuelta and second in the Worlds
    Armstrong still the youngest winner of a TdF stage
  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 18,085
    amrushton said:

    Not as if it was a surprise. You did it or go home.

    It wasn't so effective in the 80s, so I'm not sure that is true. I like to think Lemond was clean.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 26,527
    amrushton said:

    Not as if it was a surprise. You did it or go home.

    RichN95. said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    alan_a said:

    photonic69 said:

    Wish people wouldn’t link to stories on sites that require a subscription to read! :/

    Sorry.

    Not sorry 🙄😉
    Interesting theory that the performance of the youngsters is proof the peloton in now clean as previously could not compete without several years of doping behind them

    At 21 Armstrong was World Champion. at 22 Ullrich came second in the Tour, at 23 Valverde was third in the Vuelta and second in the Worlds
    Armstrong still the youngest winner of a TdF stage

    He's actually only the 22nd youngest. He's the second youngest in the last 50 years (beaten by Eric Vanderaerden in 1983). The youngest since the war was Jose Samyn in 1967, who Le Samyn is named after when he died in a crash in 1969.
    The youngest ever was Fabio Battesini in 1931 aged just 19.
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  • davidofdavidof Posts: 2,919
    TheBigBean said:

    Does this contain a doping confession?

    Yes, Pippa was taking oestrogen.
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  • andyracandyrac Posts: 942
    Does David Walsh ever write about cycling without mentioning doping?

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  • Matti66Matti66 Posts: 190
    If all you have is a hammer
  • DeVlaeminckDeVlaeminck Posts: 8,341
    So what was the gist of the article ?
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  • cq20cq20 Posts: 207
    DeVlaeminck said:

    So what was the gist of the article ?

    The gist was - they all did it, called it cheating rather than doping and provided a platform for Walsh to have a pop at Brailsford again

  • DeVlaeminckDeVlaeminck Posts: 8,341
    Ah right thanks.
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