How much faster would I be?
I've been cycling for some time now and finally decided I want to buy a road bike.About me:
Age: 25
Sex: Male
Height: 194 cm
Weight: 85 kg
Currently, I am riding on this approximately 15 years old Merida MTB, it weights around 15kg, the bike has not been serviced very much but is in good shape otherwise, the front fork is locked and it has road tires.
I will post some pictures of the bike as well as some stats from my latest Strava ride.
How much faster I would be on an entry-level road bike, something like Focus Izlaco, Fuji SL or something like that in around 1200 GBP bracket.
Cheers
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£1200 for a bike is rather more than an entry level bike.0
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I know I'd be happy to average ~15mph on a hilly route (60+ feet per mile) on my ~14Kg fatbike, although I suspect that leave me wrecked the next day. Not tried doing anything like a 40 mile ride on it since at least 2018 and those wide tyres add so much more rolling resistance compared to road tyres.
On similar hill ratio routes, I did my first two sub 4-hour 100Km rides in June and July, averaging ~17mph and not feeling too bad the next day, although my legs were screaming when I got back from South Harting two Sundays back having chased and beaten my best time up the "Turkey Island" climb.
On the same hilly ~40 mile route, time difference could easily be 30mins+.
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If the bike rewards effort, that is to say what you put in results in more forward motion, rather than being wasted by rubbish components and the bike bouncing up and down, rather than moving forward, you’ll normally find yourself going quicker. Firstly because most of your effort will end up propelling the bike forward, and secondly because you’ll find you put in a bigger shift, because it’s obviously not a wasted effort. at the 1200 quid mark, you’ll be into reasonable sportive territory, not entry level, and you’ll start seeing more reward for your effort.1
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Unluckily for me, from where I am from (Slovenia), these bikes are sold for much less competitive prices and the used market is not full of bargains either.webboo said:£1200 for a bike is rather more than an entry level bike.
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Thank you, what would be your guess in percentages?brundonbianchi said:If the bike rewards effort, that is to say what you put in results in more forward motion, rather than being wasted by rubbish components and the bike bouncing up and down, rather than moving forward, you’ll normally find yourself going quicker. Firstly because most of your effort will end up propelling the bike forward, and secondly because you’ll find you put in a bigger shift, because it’s obviously not a wasted effort. at the 1200 quid mark, you’ll be into reasonable sportive territory, not entry level, and you’ll start seeing more reward for your effort.
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It depends on the exact choice of kit, but 20 percent wouldn’t be a bad guess I think.lbmotoar-xw0z5OV said:
Thank you, what would be your guess in percentages?brundonbianchi said:If the bike rewards effort, that is to say what you put in results in more forward motion, rather than being wasted by rubbish components and the bike bouncing up and down, rather than moving forward, you’ll normally find yourself going quicker. Firstly because most of your effort will end up propelling the bike forward, and secondly because you’ll find you put in a bigger shift, because it’s obviously not a wasted effort. at the 1200 quid mark, you’ll be into reasonable sportive territory, not entry level, and you’ll start seeing more reward for your effort.
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And what are basing 20% on. Just some random number you thought of.0
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brundonbianchi said:
If the bike rewards effort, that is to say what you put in results in more forward motion, rather than being wasted by rubbish components and the bike bouncing up and down, rather than moving forward, you’ll normally find yourself going quicker. Firstly because most of your effort will end up propelling the bike forward, and secondly because you’ll find you put in a bigger shift, because it’s obviously not a wasted effort. at the 1200 quid mark, you’ll be into reasonable sportive territory, not entry level, and you’ll start seeing more reward for your effort.
Fair play Nick - you don't disappoint. I always click on your posts expecting to read utter bullshite - and you never let me down....0 -
the clown show continues...0
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My sensible answer would be "quite a bit". How big your bit is depends on a lot of things.
Overall I think you'll find a road bike much easier and enjoyable to ride on smooth roads, if they're pot hole heaven then you may be better on what you already have.
The main thing is you'll find riding much easier and responsive on a true road bike.
But, if you get a red one I'd say at least 30.65% faster on a Wednesday.Advocate of disc brakes.0 -
It depends how good the road tyres are that you have on your existing bike.
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I’m basing it on my personal experience of going from a reasonable sportive bike, to a state of the art super bike, on the same course in similar conditions. I do record a lot of data, and 20 percent would be a conservative estimate, for me anyway.webboo said:And what are basing 20% on. Just some random number you thought of.
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If by "conservative" you mean "lying boris johnson conservative", then maybe.brundonbianchi said:
I’m basing it on my personal experience of going from a reasonable sportive bike, to a state of the art super bike, on the same course in similar conditions. I do record a lot of data, and 20 percent would be a conservative estimate, for me anyway.webboo said:And what are basing 20% on. Just some random number you thought of.
But if you use two GPS units so you go twice as far? no, i don't think so.1 -
A quick cigarette packet calculation I’ve just done, based on Normalized power figures gave me a 73% Improvement, just by having a much better bike. It’s horses for courses though. There are a lot of parameters to consider.darkhairedlord said:
If by "conservative" you mean "lying boris johnson conservative", then maybe.
But if you use two GPS units so you go twice as far? no, i don't think so.
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Would your super bike be a Bianchinesecopy be everything else about you is fake.0
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73% increase in bullshiit quota is quite impressive - even for a walt like youbrundonbianchi said:
A quick cigarette packet calculation I’ve just done, based on Normalized power figures gave me a 73% Improvement, just by having a much better bike. It’s horses for courses though. There are a lot of parameters to consider.darkhairedlord said:
If by "conservative" you mean "lying boris johnson conservative", then maybe.
But if you use two GPS units so you go twice as far? no, i don't think so.
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If it is, it’s a bloody good one. They’ve even managed to blag the QR code under the frame that gives all the build details.webboo said:Would your super bike be a Bianchinesecopy be everything else about you is fake.
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I’d love to put you firmly in your place about that “Walt” comment, but there aren’t enough hours in the day, or days in my life, to bother with it to be fair.imposter2.0 said:
73% increase in bullshiit quota is quite impressive - even for a walt like youbrundonbianchi said:
A quick cigarette packet calculation I’ve just done, based on Normalized power figures gave me a 73% Improvement, just by having a much better bike. It’s horses for courses though. There are a lot of parameters to consider.darkhairedlord said:
If by "conservative" you mean "lying boris johnson conservative", then maybe.
But if you use two GPS units so you go twice as far? no, i don't think so.
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Hours spent gaining experience to comment on the performance plateau thread. The nearest you’ve been to a competitive event is the Tour de Weatherspoons.1
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"Firmly in my place" - you mean like resorting to violence or something? Coming up for your 11th forum ban, I think...brundonbianchi said:
I’d love to put you firmly in your place about that “Walt” comment, but there aren’t enough hours in the day, or days in my life, to bother with it to be fair.imposter2.0 said:
73% increase in bullshiit quota is quite impressive - even for a walt like youbrundonbianchi said:
A quick cigarette packet calculation I’ve just done, based on Normalized power figures gave me a 73% Improvement, just by having a much better bike. It’s horses for courses though. There are a lot of parameters to consider.darkhairedlord said:
If by "conservative" you mean "lying boris johnson conservative", then maybe.
But if you use two GPS units so you go twice as far? no, i don't think so.0 -
Yep, that is bang on.webboo said:Hours spent gaining experience to comment on the performance plateau thread. The nearest you’ve been to a competitive event is the Tour de Weatherspoons.
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Really no. I don’t do violence.imposter2.0 said:
"Firmly in my place" - you mean like resorting to violence or something? Coming up for your 11th forum ban, I think...brundonbianchi said:
I’d love to put you firmly in your place about that “Walt” comment, but there aren’t enough hours in the day, or days in my life, to bother with it to be fair.imposter2.0 said:
73% increase in bullshiit quota is quite impressive - even for a walt like youbrundonbianchi said:
A quick cigarette packet calculation I’ve just done, based on Normalized power figures gave me a 73% Improvement, just by having a much better bike. It’s horses for courses though. There are a lot of parameters to consider.darkhairedlord said:
If by "conservative" you mean "lying boris johnson conservative", then maybe.
But if you use two GPS units so you go twice as far? no, i don't think so.
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But you're always threatening it though, aren't you? That's what trolls do...brundonbianchi said:
Really no. I don’t do violence.imposter2.0 said:
"Firmly in my place" - you mean like resorting to violence or something? Coming up for your 11th forum ban, I think...brundonbianchi said:
I’d love to put you firmly in your place about that “Walt” comment, but there aren’t enough hours in the day, or days in my life, to bother with it to be fair.imposter2.0 said:
73% increase in bullshiit quota is quite impressive - even for a walt like youbrundonbianchi said:
A quick cigarette packet calculation I’ve just done, based on Normalized power figures gave me a 73% Improvement, just by having a much better bike. It’s horses for courses though. There are a lot of parameters to consider.darkhairedlord said:
If by "conservative" you mean "lying boris johnson conservative", then maybe.
But if you use two GPS units so you go twice as far? no, i don't think so.0 -
What silly little fishes you are.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0
