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£500 budget

Got £500 budget to spend and after some days of looking for a half decent bike I have found two that I like the look of.
first one is a Bergamont Revox 4 £499 29er

second choice is a Lapierre edge 3.7 £479 27.5


Bike will be used for leisurely rides and keeping fit.
Thanks

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  • N0bodyOfTheGoatN0bodyOfTheGoat Posts: 4,213
    Do you anticipate regularly riding in places where that relatively heavy suspension fork is needed?

    I collected a Voodoo Marasa yesterday from Halfords, having found them available locally on Wednesday night, £405 with British Cycling membership discount.

    Yet to physically try a tyre swap from the supplied 700x40 Vee Speedster, but I'm expecting my 700x50 Schwalbe Century to fit with ease, whether my 29x2.35" G One Speed will fit safely is a close call.

    50mm/2" tyres will easily cope with light off-road on the Marasa, low end suspension forks tend not to give consistent suspension; no lockout switch; heavy coill spring; lots of frequent servicing.
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    2017 Cube Attain GTC Pro Disc 2016
    2016 Voodoo Wazoo
  • karljeff72karljeff72 Posts: 16
    I did look at the Marasa along with the Boardman MTX 8.6 but I never feel right riding a hybrid.
    Cheers
  • JBAJBA Posts: 2,603
    Unless you are going off road on anything more severe than a fire road or smooth trails then don't bother with suspension forks. They are heavy and at the budget end of things don't really do anything.
    What do you mean by "never feel right riding a hybrid"?

    If you are set on getting an MTB then at your budget the Vitus Nucleus VR is very well regarded and gets great reviews but availability may be a problem. It is similarly equipped to the 2 bikes you have chosen above but crucially has a much better air fork that will actually do something.

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  • karljeff72karljeff72 Posts: 16
    Not too keen on hybrids as last year I bought a second hand Gary Fisher Utopia and spent a good few quid on it and took it out for a spin and never felt relaxed on it.

    I have spoken to a couple of bike shops on the phone the last few days and they say they have been almost cleared out due to this covid.
    Most bikes under the £1000 price mark have been sold out and the likes of Evans cycles no new stock until late November through to January 2021.

    The Vitus is a great bike for the price but not sure when they are back in stock.
  • steve_sordysteve_sordy Posts: 1,940
    I believe that the used market is also doing well, but it would be worth looking there and trying to get a better bike for your money.
  • reaperactualreaperactual Posts: 482
    edited 3 August
    My Buddy just sold his barely used 29er Vitus Sentier within a hour of advertising it. He paid £1000 and sold for £650. Well worth looking for second hand bargains at the moment.
  • N0bodyOfTheGoatN0bodyOfTheGoat Posts: 4,213

    Not too keen on hybrids as last year I bought a second hand Gary Fisher Utopia and spent a good few quid on it and took it out for a spin and never felt relaxed on it.

    To me that sounds like you bought the wrong sized bike and you didn't tweak the existing setup and/or buy replacement bits that would have made the setup better for you.

    I could have probably made either the 18" or 20" Marasa fit me, as I'm 178cm tall and have a low cycling inseam of ~82.5cm, I have a proportionally big torso. I went with the 18" and with the stem above all the 25mm of spacers at a +7 degrees, it feels extremely relaxed/comfy.
    http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php tells me if I flipped the stem and put all spacers above it, reach would be extended by 14mm and the bars stack would drop 37mm.
    I ran my Voodoo Wazoo 18" fatbike with a 110mm Specialized multi angle stem and if I transfer that over, the -16 degree config will increase reach by 65mm and bar drop stack by 42mm compared to current setup.

    I left it fashionably late to try and then head out, but last night I fitted the practically slick 2.35" G One Speed to the front wheel, there's 5mm+ clearance to the fork blades and ~10mm to the fork crown. Might be a bit tighter for the rear wheel, will try at some point... Not intending to always ride with big tyres on, more likely to be using 25-40mm most of the time, but nice to know it's an option.

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    2020 Voodoo Marasa
    2017 Cube Attain GTC Pro Disc 2016
    2016 Voodoo Wazoo
  • karljeff72karljeff72 Posts: 16
    I have looked at second hand,facebook/shpock and gumtree but just lots of scally's selling bikes that didn't belong to them in the first place :)
    Might try the mountain bike forums see if there are any local ads.
  • reaperactualreaperactual Posts: 482
    Good point!😂 Business is booming for the Scally's at the moment too. pinkbike buy and sell is the one my Buddy used to sell his Vitus, way more genuine sellers (who will provide receipts and paperwork) on forums compared to Facebook, Gumtree, etc.
  • loltorideloltoride Posts: 302
    There is also a lot of good sellers out there on all mediums, I would certainly go 2nd hand.
    So Far!
  • I totally get the not so relaxed on the hybrid.
    I've been riding mtbs for 30 odd years and only just this year got a hybrid.
    It took me a few rides to be able to stand up on the hybrid and peddle when it was 2nd nature on the mtb.
    Also the wider handlebars of the mtb always make me more relaxed.
    I also find that looking behind on the hybrid is more difficult and needs more concentration than the mtb.
    I was also not used to the toes touching the wheel at low speed turning.
    But I absolutely love the speed of the hybrid and the next level of concentration needed that comes with it.
    Maybe my bike is more speed oriented
    Trek 7.2 fx.
    And definitely just keep looking on ebay.
    Thats where I found mine but took a few weeks.
    If you save a couple of searches you can get notifications when new bikes are listed.
    Good luck
  • The RookieThe Rookie Posts: 27,747
    Interesting as my commuter bike is a PlanetX London road frame built up as a hybrid, 28mm tyres, 580mm bars and sub 9kg and it's never felt like it needed more concentration than my MTB except for looking over my shoulder (shorter bars=more steering angle for the same hand movement I guess).
  • I've just been out on mine today and I'm definitely getting more confident, I suppose its lots of things I'm not used to.
    I'm going a lot faster and I'm on busy London roads with buses and skip trucks etc.
    So I'm basically concentrating on staying alive.ha ha.
    On my mtb I'd mostly be off road so I Don't have traffic to contend with.
    Also not sure why but I can't take both hands off the trek without it straight away wanting to buckle underneath me.(front wheel turns straight away)
    On all my mtbs I've been able to ride no handed with ease for a little hand and arm rest.
  • karljeff72karljeff72 Posts: 16
    Thanks for all the comments.
    I ended up going with the Bergamont as there was nothing else I could find new or second hand.
    Anyway ordered Monday from Start cycles and today it arrived just waiting on new pedals not using them god awful Wellgo's :D
  • oxomanoxoman Posts: 8,097
    I'd never heard of bergamont until lad at work had one through C2W from LBS. Doesn't look to bad tbh.
    Too many bikes according to Mrs O.
  • karljeff72karljeff72 Posts: 16
    Bergamont is part of Scott bikes.
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