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With Italy opening up from 2nd June would you still go this year?

I know that this is all personal opinions and views, I have a trip currently planned in June to go to Northern Italy. It has been cancelled yet, but with Italy now stating they are opening up from 2nd June and allowing travel, restaurants to open etc... hotels as well.

Would you still go?

Yes, it may be really deserted as people will be cautious about travel and locals may be very accomodating...
No, I'm concerned about how I get there and risk to personal heath...

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  • super_davosuper_davo Posts: 508
    My mum and dad have been staying at their holiday home in Sicily throughout lockdown. And the general feeling is of incredularity as to how we've handled the pandemic; they can't believe how lax we've been in terms of lockdown and testing etc.
    So personally, no, on account:
    * I'm not sure how truly open things will be in June
    * Social distancing has been very well enforced and observed, I doubt it will be eased enough to make it a relaxing experience
    * As a Brit, based on the media reporting, there will be a percentage of people that will think you're riddled with Coronavirus
    * You're highly likely to then have to spend 14 days in quarantine / isolation on the other side

    I have a holiday booked for the French alps in late August (driving there) and my inclination is that I probably won't go unless things improve somewhat in the next few months (and that's said in respect of attitudes / openings / legal positions rather than fear of personal health).
  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 24,230
    No.
    It's not much about the risk, which is currently lower there than it is here. It's about the volatility of the all situation... you might be asked to self isolate on your way home and things there might change very rapidly, to the point that one day you might be eating a pizza sitting in a square and the following day you might have to stay in your hotel room.

  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 11,027
    Remember the day when flights to Spain were turned round mid flight?
    Those days may well be behind us but I doubt any holiday in the next year will feel like a holiday last year. Businesses and social acceptance may vary vastly.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • 54ragtop54ragtop Posts: 18
    Well, I think this evening quarantine rules will kill the long weekend anyway, 4 days riding for 14 self-isolation when back!!
  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 24,230
    The way things are going in Italy, they might not stay out of lockdown for very long... this is from Milan on Saturday night, the worst affected region


  • davep1davep1 Posts: 725
    We have a holiday place in Abruzzo, watching all the news bulletins for updates on what will be allowed and what won't.
    The UK currently saying if you come back from anywhere in Europe you will have to self-isolate for 14 days is the biggest issue for me, work won't let me take 2 weeks holiday and then two weeks self isolating.
    We drive down, so getting there and back would be a lot less risky in terms of infection than flying, although having to overnight somewhere probably negates not having to go into an airport or plane.
    It will depend a little on infection rates and which countries allow people to drive through them.
    I really want to go, I miss the place and the locals we have got to know, and the cycling is brilliant, albeit a level up from riding in the UK.
    My wife had thought about staying there for over 90 days to get residency and a possible European passport/citizenship before Covid struck, I don't know if that will be an option for her now.
  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 24,230
    davep1 said:

    We have a holiday place in Abruzzo, watching all the news bulletins for updates on what will be allowed and what won't.
    The UK currently saying if you come back from anywhere in Europe you will have to self-isolate for 14 days is the biggest issue for me, work won't let me take 2 weeks holiday and then two weeks self isolating.
    We drive down, so getting there and back would be a lot less risky in terms of infection than flying, although having to overnight somewhere probably negates not having to go into an airport or plane.
    It will depend a little on infection rates and which countries allow people to drive through them.
    I really want to go, I miss the place and the locals we have got to know, and the cycling is brilliant, albeit a level up from riding in the UK.
    My wife had thought about staying there for over 90 days to get residency and a possible European passport/citizenship before Covid struck, I don't know if that will be an option for her now.

    France is also reciprocating the quarantine, so I am not sure if you can drive through it to go to Italy... it's all a bit confusing to be honest.

    You might have missed the boat for the residency, unless she tries in the Autumn. As for Italian citizenship... it's getting very very hard, now they have introduced a compulsory language test, which is pretty high level. I could pass it, obviously, but not many non native speakers would.
    Also, the application process can take anything up to 4 years by law
  • paulwoodpaulwood Posts: 212
    I've written off this year. Not thinking of going away anywhere i may not be easily able to get home from if I get sick or have to isolate. Hopefully a little time away in England (or the UK even....) if allowed.
  • bondurantbondurant Posts: 811
    I've also written off the summer holiday we had planned. If it happens, great, but I can't see it being possible without significant drawbacks.
  • thegreatdividethegreatdivide Posts: 5,014
    We’ve booked EasyJet flights from Edinburgh to Geneva for the 16/09 to stay in our usual Alps gaff and catch the Tour the next day. 132 quid return for a booked seat, a bike and a hold bag. We’re betting on it being very unlikely that there will be European travel restrictions come mid September.
  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 24,230
    September should be fine if people behave over the summer
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 11,027
    And that is precisely why I’m not booking anything foreign this year.
    Who knows who will by flying anywhere in January, or even exist?
    I realise that is a self fulfilling statement.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • teisetrotterteisetrotter Posts: 286
    I think I'll leave the delights of mainland Europe for next year. All rather confusing and considering the weather you'd have thought we were part of Europe anyway!

    How nice it would be to have an EU passport again. However, my cousin has done the family tree. You can trace the family directly back via births and registers to two churches since before the Great Fire of London. Apart from a couple of marriages to Norfolk vicars daughters in the 19th century all inbred Londoners that moved no further than the north and west Wards of the City of London until the blitz destroyed everything.

    No one in the family tree thought to learn Italian or fall for the charms of the Irish! Very annoying and inconsiderate, especially as we live in the largest Irish city in the world and probably I'd imagine one of the larger Italian population centres in a city which was founded by Italians!

  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 24,230
    We are probably going to stay at home altogether. We have paid a deposit for a cottage in Cornwall for July, that was back in February, but I'm not sure we want to go there to queue for everything, being unable to get a meal out because they can only serve 3 tables instead of the 10 they would normally ram in 400 sqf... find out that the beaches are invaded by hoards of day tourists who cannot go to Spain... being unable to keep decent social distance every time we leave the property... on balance it seems better to cut our losses than to spend another 1000-1500 to get a censored holiday
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 11,027
    In a similar vein, I’ve just spent a holiday refund on a fancy new BBQ. May be our best option for eating out this summer.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 24,230
    Premier Inn just refunded me a trip to Wales that is now not happening... I was worried that wouldn't happen as it was borderline Government decisions on July 4th... :)

    Better not tell the wife or it will all be spent at the garden centre!
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