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PTP 2020

dish_dashdish_dash Posts: 4,882
edited 24 February in Pro race

So it's time for a 16th year of PTP

(As far as I can tell the first year it was run was 2005, though before the forum merger so I can't figure out who the winner was).

No proposed changes to the schedule apart from the addition of the Olympic Games.

As ever, am happy to maintain the master spreadsheet, but would really appreciate all the help I can get to score PTP through the year. Please volunteer and let me know what you can or can't do, particularly the GTs. It's very simple and I'll can send you a googlesheet template closer to the day.

PTP Races
29 February: Omloop Het Nieuswsblad* - dish_dash
1 March: Kuurne Brussels Kuurne* - dish_dash
7 March: Strade Bianche* - twotoebenny
8-15 March: Paris Nice - RichN95
11-17 March: Tirreno-Adriatico - gregster04
21 March: Milan San Remo* - red.rider
27 March: E3 Harelbeke* - gregster04
29 March: Ghent Wevelgem* - gregster04
5 April: Ronde van Vlaanderen* - RichN95
8 April: Scheldeprijs* - twotoebenny
12 April: Paris Roubaix* - ducknumber1
19 April: Amstel Gold* - red.rider
22 April: Fleche Wallone* - dish_dash
26 April: Liege Bastogne Liege* - dish_dash
28 April: 3 May - Tour de Romandie - twotoebenny
30 April: 3 May Tour de Yorkshire - gregster04
9-31 May: Giro d'Italia - red.rider
31 May - 7 June: Criterium du Dauphine - dish_dash
6-14 June: Tour de Suisse - bobmcstuff
27 June - 19 July: Tour de France - RichN95
25 July: Classica San Sebastian - red.rider
25-29 July: Olympic Games (RR+TT, Men & Women) - bobmcstuff
31 Aug - 6 Sept: BinkBank Tour - twotoebenny
14 August - 6 Sept: Vuelta a Espana - ducknumber1
20-27 September: World Championships (RR + TT, Men & Women) - gregster04
10 October: Il Lombardia - dish_dash
11 October: Paris Tours - dish_dash

Past PTP Winners There's a blast from the past...
2019: M.R.M.
2018: rozzer32
2017: rozzer32
2016: ducknumber1
2015: Stanislav
2014: Art Vandelay
2013: archieboy (I think)
2012: Art Vandelay
2011: rozzer32
2010: Kléber
2009: FJS
2008: Richrd2205
2007: andyp
2006: mangama
2005: ?unknown?

And to remind you, 2019 PTP Top 10
M.R.M. 1236
archieboy 1214
rozzer32 1214
dish_dash 1163
indyP 1155
TwoToeBenny 1119
bobmcstuff 1114
ShockedSoShocked 1091
TheBigBean 1069
OCDuPalais 1065

How to Play

Playing along with PTP is extremely simple - you don't have to sign up or join anything other than the Bikeradar forums. If you're already a member here, that means you're already eligible to play.

A few days before each of the chosen races, a PTP thread will be started in the Pro Race forum. That thread will contain a selection of useful links - start lists, race maps, past winners and so on. All you have to do is consider who you think is likely to win and post their name in that thread. It's that simple. If the race in question is a stage-race, you also get to predict the daily stage winners.

Post your pick in the relevant PTP thread before the cut off. If you change your mind then please post as a new post rather than editing your old post.

As you play, your scores will be added up and the overall season rankings will be updated in this thread.

We may also be running a PTP World Cup for the highest scores in 11 spring classics (marked by a * in the race list). Subject to demand.

Scoring

TdF = Tour de France / G/V = Giro/Vuelta / Reg = Regular season

GC and one-day winners:

TdF | G/V | Reg
1 | 100 | 85 | 50 |
2 | 75 | 65 | 40 |
3 | 60 | 50 | 35 |
4 | 55 | 45 | 30 |
5 | 50 | 40 | 25 |
6 | 45 | 35 | 20 |
7 | 40 | 30 | 15 |
8 | 35 | 26 | 10 |
9 | 30 | 22 | 5 |
10 | 25 | 19 | 2 |
11 | 20 | 16 | |
12 | 15 | 13 | |
13 | 12 | 11 | |
14 | 10 | 9 | |
15 | 8 | 7 | |
16 | 6 | 5 | |
17 | 5 | 4 | |
18 | 4 | 3 | |
19 | 3 | 2 | |
20 | 2 | 1 | |

Stage winners:

TdF | G/V | Reg
1 | 12 | 10 | 6 |
2 | 10 | 8 | 5 |
3 | 8 | 6 | 4 |
4 | 7 | 5 | 3 |
5 | 6 | 4 | 2 |
6 | 5 | 3 | 1 |
7 | 4 | 2 | |
8 | 3 | 1 | |
9 | 2 | | |
10 | 1 | | |

Doping
Points are finalised once the race organisations publishes their results. No adjustments will be made if it later emerges that a rider has failed a drugs test or if a rider has wins retrospectively removed from his palmares.

Prediction Cut-off
Always the contentious one! The cut off is 12pm (noon) on the day of the race. This is strict so predictions at 12.01 won't be counted (exceptions made for split-stages, evening prologues etc). No GC selections will be accepted once a stage-race has begun.
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  • Thanks Dish, been looking out for this :smile: Happy to help out with scoring again
  • Looking forward to new season, this always helps add a little more interest to the race. I'm happy to help out for the first time.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 23,538
    Happy to help out - can't do the Dauphine though
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 8,566
    Wondered when this would be up!

    Happy to help out again, if you can tolerate the occasional very long waits for results. Spring classics season is looking busy though - 3 weddings and another 2 stags to go to.

    I'll look at my calendar properly at work...
  • red.riderred.rider Posts: 441
    Happy to help again. Thanks for organising!
  • gregster04gregster04 Posts: 1,110
    Hi all.

    Been trying to sort out my account to get into the new forum set-up for a while. Seems to be pretty much sorted though now.

    I’m happy to do some scoring again. The only race I will struggle with for now is Amstel Gold as I’m planning on being on the Netherlands that week.
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 8,566
    Currently can't do:
    MSR
    Gent-Wevelgem
    Amstel
    LBL
    TDF first week

    Mostly due to birthday, wedding and stag do attendance. Unless you don't mind the scoring being somewhat late.
  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 9,790
    Is there a PTP PTP? I pick rozzer for GC.
    “Road racing was over and the UCI had banned my riding positions on the track, so it was like ‘Jings, crivvens, help ma Boab, what do I do now? I know, I’ll go away and be depressed for 10 years’.”

    @DrHeadgear

    The Vikings are coming!
  • m.r.m.m.r.m. Posts: 1,864
    Et tu Brute?! :D
    PTP Champion 2019
  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 9,790
    m.r.m. said:

    Et tu Brute?! :D

    dish_dash said:



    Past PTP Winners There's a blast from the past...
    2019: M.R.M.
    2018: rozzer32
    2017: rozzer32
    2016: ducknumber1
    2015: Stanislav
    2014: Art Vandelay
    2013: archieboy (I think)
    2012: Art Vandelay
    2011: rozzer32
    2010: Kléber
    2009: FJS
    2008: Richrd2205
    2007: andyp
    2006: mangama
    2005: ?unknown?

    And to remind you, 2019 PTP Top 10
    M.R.M. 1236
    archieboy 1214
    rozzer32 1214
    dish_dash 1163
    indyP 1155
    TwoToeBenny 1119
    bobmcstuff 1114
    ShockedSoShocked 1091
    TheBigBean 1069
    OCDuPalais 1065

    Three wins and (at least) a podium in the last 9 seasons? He probably needs his own thread in The Clinic.

    “Road racing was over and the UCI had banned my riding positions on the track, so it was like ‘Jings, crivvens, help ma Boab, what do I do now? I know, I’ll go away and be depressed for 10 years’.”

    @DrHeadgear

    The Vikings are coming!
  • m.r.m.m.r.m. Posts: 1,864
    I am aware (remarked on his insane consistency in my thank you post. He is the GOAT). The betrayal still stings! ;)
    PTP Champion 2019
  • Looking forward to it. I'm on nights til the middle of April so I can get up after shift and watch all the races til then :)
    "A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"

    PTP Runner Up 2015
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 23,538
    Every year I vow that this year I'm play sensibly and pick boring sensible riders. And every year I don't get past April without some crazy picks.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • dish_dashdish_dash Posts: 4,882
    edited 24 February
    Thanks everyone who volunteered! I've put up a draft schedule in the original post for scoring. Let me know if any of those are problematic and I can move around.
  • takethehighroadtakethehighroad Posts: 5,545
    Is Paris Nice PTP the latest high profile sporting event the latest to fall foul of the Corona virus?
    My Men 2020 - Mark Cavendish, Ben Swift, Fernando Gaviria, Alejandro Valverde, Edvald Boassen Hagen, Zdenek Stybar, Vincenzo Nibali, Geraint Thomas.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 23,538

    Is Paris Nice PTP the latest high profile sporting event the latest to fall foul of the Corona virus?

    Thanks for the jab in the ribs. Without you I wouldn't have realised it was on me.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • shockedsoshockedshockedsoshocked Posts: 3,890

    Looking forward to it. I'm on nights til the middle of April so I can get up after shift and watch all the races til then :)

    @Quotesprecedingunfortunateevents
    "A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"

    PTP Runner Up 2015
  • dish_dashdish_dash Posts: 4,882
    So the PTP scores after three rounds are here

    Top 10
    red.rider 87
    Rod11 79
    dish_dash 69
    Dorset_Boy 64
    rozzer32 63
    ocdupalais 61
    shockedsoshocked 59
    TheBigBean 57
    archieboy 56
    m.r.m. 54

    Let's see where things go...
  • dish_dashdish_dash Posts: 4,882
    edited 23 July
    Hi All,

    Thanks for all your offers to score. I've slightly tweaked the schedule based on feedback and schedules. Hope it works for you. Let me know if it doesnt!

    1 August: Strade Bianche - twotoebenny
    8 August: Milan San Remo - red.rider
    12-16 August: Criterium du Dauphine – bobmcstuff
    15 August: Il Lombardia – dish_dash
    29 August – 20 September: Tour de France – RichN95
    7-13 September: Tirreno-Adriatico - gregster04
    20-27 September: World Championships (RR + TT, Men & Women) – bobmcstuff
    29 Sept – 3 October: BinkBank Tour – twotoebenny
    30 September: Fleche Wallone – dish_dash
    3-25 October: Giro d'Italia - red.rider
    4 October: Liege Bastogne Liege – ducknumber1
    10 October: Amstel Gold – red.rider
    11 October: Paris Tours - bobmcstuff
    11 October: Ghent Wevelgem – gregster04
    14 October: Scheldeprijs – twotoebenny
    18 October: Ronde van Vlaanderen - RichN95
    20 October – 8 November: Vuelta a Espana – ducknumber1
    25 October: Paris Roubaix - dish_dash
  • red.riderred.rider Posts: 441
    Happy to help. And happy to keep the Giro too
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 23,538
    I'm happy to do the races I was originally allocated
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 8,566
    What was I originally allocated? I can't see a PM or whatever.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 23,538
    edited 2 July

    What was I originally allocated? I can't see a PM or whatever.


    It's in the first post of this thread - you've got the Tour de Suisse and the Olympics, both cancelled
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 8,566
    Hooray!

    I'll pick something else up though if needed. Currently not available 2nd-5th October.
  • twotoebennytwotoebenny Posts: 850
    i should be ok for what was originally scheduled.
  • ducknumber1ducknumber1 Posts: 772
    Still on deck to help out - traditionally Dish takes the last race, happy to keep/swap/drop P-R as needed
  • gregster4gregster4 Posts: 3
    Hi all. I've had more account problems in the lock-down. My own fault probably for avoiding the idea of pro-racing given everything we've been missing.

    I was down to do:

    E3 and Tour de Yorkshire which have been cancelled for this year.

    Also down to do:

    Ghent-Wevelgem - can still do the rearranged date
    World Champs - I've got a rearranged holiday that weekend now but should still be able to manage

    I'm happy to help pick some other races up if needed or swap out if we need to reorganise.
  • dish_dashdish_dash Posts: 4,882
    Hi All,

    Thanks for all your offers to score. I've slightly tweaked the schedule based on feedback and schedules. Hope it works for you. Let me know if it doesnt!

    1 August: Strade Bianche - twotoebenny
    8 August: Milan San Remo - red.rider
    12-16 August: Criterium du Dauphine – bobmcstuff
    15 August: Il Lombardia – dish_dash
    29 August – 20 September: Tour de France – RichN95
    7-13 September: Tirreno-Adriatico - gregster04
    20-27 September: World Championships (RR + TT, Men & Women) – bobmcstuff
    29 Sept – 3 October: BinkBank Tour – twotoebenny
    30 September: Fleche Wallone – dish_dash
    3-25 October: Giro d'Italia - red.rider
    4 October: Liege Bastogne Liege – ducknumber1
    10 October: Amstel Gold – red.rider
    11 October: Paris Tours - bobmcstuff
    11 October: Ghent Wevelgem – gregster04
    14 October: Scheldeprijs – twotoebenny
    18 October: Ronde van Vlaanderen - RichN95
    20 October – 8 November: Vuelta a Espana – ducknumber1
    25 October: Paris Roubaix - dish_dash
  • gregster04gregster04 Posts: 1,110
    dish_dash said:

    Hi All,

    Thanks for all your offers to score. I've slightly tweaked the schedule based on feedback and schedules. Hope it works for you. Let me know if it doesnt!

    1 August: Strade Bianche - twotoebenny
    8 August: Milan San Remo - red.rider
    12-16 August: Criterium du Dauphine – bobmcstuff
    15 August: Il Lombardia – dish_dash
    29 August – 20 September: Tour de France – RichN95
    7-13 September: Tirreno-Adriatico - gregster04
    20-27 September: World Championships (RR + TT, Men & Women) – bobmcstuff
    29 Sept – 3 October: BinkBank Tour – twotoebenny
    30 September: Fleche Wallone – dish_dash
    3-25 October: Giro d'Italia - red.rider
    4 October: Liege Bastogne Liege – ducknumber1
    10 October: Amstel Gold – red.rider
    11 October: Paris Tours - bobmcstuff
    11 October: Ghent Wevelgem – gregster04
    14 October: Scheldeprijs – twotoebenny
    18 October: Ronde van Vlaanderen - RichN95
    20 October – 8 November: Vuelta a Espana – ducknumber1
    25 October: Paris Roubaix - dish_dash

    Cheers dish. No problems with my races.
  • dish_dashdish_dash Posts: 4,882
    Thanks everyone for picking up various races! And what a delight to have some actual racing on.

    Results after Strade Bianche and Milan-San Remo.

    Top 10
    red.rider 157
    Dorset_Boy 119
    rozzer32 113
    archieboy 106
    ridgerider 100
    Dialatron 88
    TheBigBean 87
    takethehighroad 87
    bobmcstuff 87
    Rod11 79

    Some people have started the re-start with a bang, others of us have been picking blanks...

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