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Carbon rim brake frame + full length mudguards?

After much searching on here & more, all I can find is...
Dolan Dual
Trek Domane 2017 or older

Are there any other carbon rim brake frames with fixings which can fit full length mudguards (for 25mm tyres)?

I’ve got a spare 105 5800 groupset to build a carbon commuter/winter rim brake beast. Has to be carbon but willing to search out 2nd hand if a frame meets the spec.

Any ideas other than the 2 mentioned?
Summer: Canyon Ultimate CF SL 2019
Winter/Commuter: Planet X RT-58 6700
Dead: Specialized Allez Elite 2009

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  • If you've got a few quid then there's the Ribble Endurance SLR:

    https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-endurance-sl-r-series-frameset/

    Curious as to why it has to be carbon?
  • arlowoodarlowood Posts: 2,538
    Ribble Endurance SL-R still available as rim brake option and will take mudguards. Not cheap tho at £1500

    https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-endurance-sl-r-series-frameset/
  • If you've got a few quid then there's the Ribble Endurance SLR:

    https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-endurance-sl-r-series-frameset/

    Curious as to why it has to be carbon?

    Looks nice but too much $ for my commuter.

    I want carbon as I’ve been riding a cheap alu Planet X to work everyday for 2 yrs which is like a noodle.
    Summer: Canyon Ultimate CF SL 2019
    Winter/Commuter: Planet X RT-58 6700
    Dead: Specialized Allez Elite 2009
  • fenixfenix Posts: 5,437
    Not all ALU frames are like that. Not all carbon frames are stiff
  • I've got a Dual... it's not the most exciting frame out there, but it is one of the most versatile. IN 20,000 km it has given me zero problems... still running on all the original bearings, both BB and headset.
    Highly recommended as a all year round bike
  • bobonesbobones Posts: 1,126
    Yep, love my Dual. It's a joy to ride compared to your standard alu winter bike. I've had it since last August, and it currently runs R7000 with full length guards and 25 mm tyres, no problem. A pal bought one recently, but his requires long reach calipers or offset brake shoes so I'm guessing they've changed the spec slightly to provide more clearance, but mine is totally fine with the standard R7000 calipers.
  • amrushtonamrushton Posts: 1,075
    Can buy a Ti planet X for not mad money
  • bobones said:

    A pal bought one recently, but his requires long reach calipers or offset brake shoes so I'm guessing they've changed the spec slightly to provide more clearance, but mine is totally fine with the standard R7000 calipers.

    He probably has it built with Ultegra, which has shorter calipers. 105 should be fine
  • alanyualanyu Posts: 73
    giant defy?
  • bobonesbobones Posts: 1,126

    bobones said:

    A pal bought one recently, but his requires long reach calipers or offset brake shoes so I'm guessing they've changed the spec slightly to provide more clearance, but mine is totally fine with the standard R7000 calipers.

    He probably has it built with Ultegra, which has shorter calipers. 105 should be fine
    No, I helped him with the build and it was R7000, exactly the same as mine. The Dolan site now says the Dual frameset is supplied with "Dolan Road Deep Drop Carbon Winter Fork - Gloss" and their builds now specify BR-R451 calipers so it's a different fork from yours and mine. We tried filing down the calipers but it still was a bit too close to the tyre so he ended up buying these, which work great:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AICAN-Aluminum-Bike-Bicycle-Cycling-C-Brake-Pads-Shoes-for-Shimano-SRAM-Ti/190878120821

  • lesfirthlesfirth Posts: 1,283
    I had a Trek Domane 5.2 2014. It did have detachable mudguard eyes but the clearance at the back made 23mm tyres a tight fit with full mudguards. The front had plenty of clearance. How anyone could design a frame like that was beyond me.
    Later frames may be different.
  • bobonesbobones Posts: 1,126
    Mate's Defy was the same: mudguard eyelets but clearance was so pathetic he had to run race blades. Seems like adding the eyelets was an afterthought.
  • So I decided to try the Dolan as no other options... Only one size of one colour left ☹️.

    Anyone know if a new version is on the horizon? Or does it mean another bike with only disc brake options?
    Summer: Canyon Ultimate CF SL 2019
    Winter/Commuter: Planet X RT-58 6700
    Dead: Specialized Allez Elite 2009
  • I see the Dual is on discount, it wouldn't surprise me if they're clearing stock and then that will be that with the Dual.
    Unfortunately the world of carbon rim brake bikes with mudguard mounts is an incredibly niche one.

    How about buying one of these and stripping it?

    https://www.cyclerepublic.com/boardman-slr-8-9c-mens-tiagra-road-bike-2019.html

    £765 with BC discount, you'd probably make £200-250 by stripping the groupset and other parts.
  • I enquired about the Dolan rdx - and was told it was discontinued and a new version would be out within weeks.....maybe the Dual is the same.

    I am just about to sell my alu defy - which has been a great winter bike. - especially since I upgraded the wheels. I'm sticking to alu for my winter bike - Ribble CGR on order..
  • amrushtonamrushton Posts: 1,075
    https://www.bicyclequickguard.co.uk/

    Not full length but certainly an improvement on others. review on

    http://www.thewashingmachinepost.net/
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