1:59 challenge

shirley_basso
shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
edited October 2019 in The cake stop
Anyone watching this? I am on baby duties this morning so have the joys of the most bland television personality - Clare boring balding introducing. Hopefully eurosport does a better job of the coverage
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,307
    edited October 2019
    Drafting does seem like a bit if a cheat but of it's within the rules...
    Edit:- Ah, no record so not within the rules. Still impressive if done!
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  • Darius_Jedburgh
    Darius_Jedburgh Posts: 675
    Hope he does it. Totally artificial and no world record but it takes some doing. I like the car shining the laser so that the pacers can pace themselves.

    Every credit to everyone involved for having a go.

    Quite a few spectators this early in the morning.
  • Foxymoron
    Foxymoron Posts: 7
    Yes, love Kipchoge, awesome human
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Have they explained why the runners are forming a concave v shape and not a convex one? In my simple mind they are channelling the air inwards rather than away from Kipchoge.
  • PhilipPirrip
    PhilipPirrip Posts: 616
    They'd done CFD work and determined it was the best model to reduce drag on Kipchoge.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,814
    At the speed they're travelling you'd think he would be better off in some sort of skinsuit.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Watching the coach gesturing for the team member behind Kipchoge to close up and thinking man, what if he clipped his heel by being too close... Looking good to do it bar mishap.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,182
    Bloody Ineos train destroying the competition.

    I know a lot of people who think 2h at 21.1 km/h is a fast cycle ride.
  • craigus89
    craigus89 Posts: 887
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    Bloody Ineos train destroying the competition.

    :D good one.
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    Looking good, Fingers crossed he can do it, I’m sure he will.
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,182
    Found that quite emotional .
  • chris_bass
    chris_bass Posts: 4,913
    can't help thinking this is happening at a very bad time - the whole salazar/drugs in athletics thing going on as someone runs unbelievably fast
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    4'33" miling, I can't run 400m at that pace. It took me 4 attempts to run a half in under 2 hours and I was close to tears when I finally did it, hopefully he can do it in competition and some point and make it official (obviously he'll have to upload it to Strava for it to count properly though).
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    Great achievement but I'd rather the 2 hour barrier remained unbroken until someone could do it in a race or if not then an unpaced time trial.
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  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    Fantastic stuff. What an athlete and what a team.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    Great achievement but I'd rather the 2 hour barrier remained unbroken until someone could do it in a race or if not then an unpaced time trial.

    Yep I am in two minds about this. Like Bannister “cheating”to beat 4 minutes it removed the psychological barrier so could be interesting to see what happens next.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    Surrey Commuter wrote:
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    Great achievement but I'd rather the 2 hour barrier remained unbroken until someone could do it in a race or if not then an unpaced time trial.

    Yep I am in two minds about this. Like Bannister “cheating”to beat 4 minutes it removed the psychological barrier so could be interesting to see what happens next.

    This, plus the whole magic shoes thing. I suppose it's kinda cool but it doesn't feel real

    I dunno, it was better than Saturday Kitchen...
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,814
    Wonder what distance a paced effort for the hour record in a velodrome could hit...
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,887
    MrB123 wrote:
    Wonder what distance a paced effort for the hour record in a velodrome could hit...

    The recumbent record is pretty amazing.
  • timothyw
    timothyw Posts: 2,482
    It's a fair point on velodrome pacing, I'm sure I read somewhere that the UCI banned having a pace setting spotlight in the velodrome for hour record attempts (in much the style of the lasers used in this run).

    Certainly it's hard to envisage a situation in which an actual marathon would be run at such a steady (and fast) pace so it seems likely the actual record will stand for a while yet.

    It is nice that Kipchoge actually got out there and did it, if nothing else. Impressive as the Merckx hour record was, for me there has always been a what if element... if he had run a sensible pacing strategy, could he have broken 50km?
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Did anyone else notice Lt Nick Bradshaw as part of running dude's final pacemaking team?

    Now that is cool but does raise a whole load of security questions ........
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
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    He's right you know.
  • bondurant
    bondurant Posts: 858
    Apt that he was running as a wingman
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    ddraver wrote:
    Surrey Commuter wrote:
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    Great achievement but I'd rather the 2 hour barrier remained unbroken until someone could do it in a race or if not then an unpaced time trial.

    Yep I am in two minds about this. Like Bannister “cheating”to beat 4 minutes it removed the psychological barrier so could be interesting to see what happens next.

    This, plus the whole magic shoes thing. I suppose it's kinda cool but it doesn't feel real

    I dunno, it was better than Saturday Kitchen...

    Magic shoes is a bit of a stretch. It's just technological advancement. Do you feel the same if the hour record gets broken on something other than a steel frame bike with drop bars?
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    Well, the UCI certainly do.

    (Or used to...)
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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    ddraver wrote:
    Well, the UCI certainly do.

    (Or used to...)
    And they killed off the hour record with their approach.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,887
    Presumably he could also have run this quickly if he did it on the track or on a downhill course. It's interesting that he has chosen to do it with the rotating pacemakers. Perhaps, this way is more marketable than the other ways.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Presumably he could also have run this quickly if he did it on the track or on a downhill course. It's interesting that he has chosen to do it with the rotating pacemakers. Perhaps, this way is more marketable than the other ways.
    The track is not ideal as the bends are quite tight and you'd be spending 50% of your time running corners. More force required as you're accelerating in corners.
    Downhill is a clear mockery of the human effort. Pacemakers are used in all major road races so they are not making a mockery, they have simply been optimised.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,887
    morstar wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Presumably he could also have run this quickly if he did it on the track or on a downhill course. It's interesting that he has chosen to do it with the rotating pacemakers. Perhaps, this way is more marketable than the other ways.
    The track is not ideal as the bends are quite tight and you'd be spending 50% of your time running corners. More force required as you're accelerating in corners.
    Downhill is a clear mockery of the human effort. Pacemakers are used in all major road races so they are not making a mockery, they have simply been optimised.

    Pacemakers are used, but only when they run from the start. This involved fresh pacemakers running in the most aero format. Note the reason given for Radcliffe's quick marathon is that she had male pacemakers presumably providing the same advantage.

    The track is quicker if you look at world record times.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    morstar wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Presumably he could also have run this quickly if he did it on the track or on a downhill course. It's interesting that he has chosen to do it with the rotating pacemakers. Perhaps, this way is more marketable than the other ways.
    The track is not ideal as the bends are quite tight and you'd be spending 50% of your time running corners. More force required as you're accelerating in corners.
    Downhill is a clear mockery of the human effort. Pacemakers are used in all major road races so they are not making a mockery, they have simply been optimised.

    The fact that they pulled out the car, the bikes and pacemakers so they weren’t in the finishing pictures would suggest they thought they were making a mockery
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Ah c'mon, the boy dun good innit.

    This man ran a marathon distance sub 2 hours. Respect.

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