4600 and 5700 compatibility?

turbo1191
turbo1191 Posts: 501
edited July 2019 in Workshop
Hi folks. Wanting to replace the 4600 shifters I have with 5700, are they compatible (I know there's a different pull ratio on Shimano stuff so not sure)?

Thanks

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  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    Those 2 are compatible. They changed the pull ratio for Tiagra 4700.

    You doing it just to get the under bar-tape cable routing?
  • mugensi
    mugensi Posts: 559
    Having had bikes with both 5700 and 4600, I'd stick with the 4600. 5700 FD shifting is horrible and agricultural. 4600 is much smoother and slicker by far. I have owned bikes with 4400,4500,4600. 4700, 5700,5800,6700, 6800, 2200 and Claris R2000 and out of them all 5700 was by far and away the worst most unpleasant group-set. Stick with 4600.
  • turbo1191
    turbo1191 Posts: 501
    I'd been given a set of 5700 levers, and,yes i want to have the under bar tape cable routing. Don't like the ergonomics of the 4600 in hand either. Ive got a 4601 long cage rear mech and when cable is installed the rear mech does not seem to shift right but take the cable off and the shifter works fine..
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    I have 9 spd 4500 and 10 spd 5600 both with the flying gear cables. Love the light shifting and also the ease of cable replacement.

    Occasionally I've considered moving the 5600 bike on to something with concealed cables to neaten up the bars / not interfere with lights and bar bags, but it's either 5700 STIs with their reputation for draggy shifts / eating cables, or a whole new groupset 4700 / R7000
  • turbo1191
    turbo1191 Posts: 501
    I hadn't realised 5700 had a reputation for bad shifting.. :(
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    Never tried it myself but I think it was a low point for Shimano. Some people never had any problem with 5700.

    Since you've been gifted the levers you've nothing to lose but a bit of time and bar tape. Unless the cables are really new I'd probably buy / fit some new ones, and finish the cut ends of the outers as neatly / snag-free as you can get them. Keep an eye on the state of the inner cable in the RH shifter
  • turbo1191
    turbo1191 Posts: 501
    I should add that I'm using a 4601 rear mech..but I've been told there compatible.
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    That's fine. It's only 4700 and the 11 speed stuff that has the new pull ratio.
  • turbo1191
    turbo1191 Posts: 501
    Ok, cheers. i'll give it a bash..
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    Let us know how it goes / what you think.
    My 5600 bike is a triple which I want to keep, so my options for tidying up the cable routing are either
    a) find a set of 5703 shifters or
    b) 4703 shifters and derailleurs
  • turbo1191
    turbo1191 Posts: 501
    I have a Fleet of hire bikes with 4700. The first batch of 4700 had faulty shifters and the ratchet mechanism's were snapping. They've solved this problem now and it is a nice groupset.

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