'Cycle Event' detritus
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No, not the usual moan about gel wrappers and punctured tubes littering our lanes (they still do, a-holes!), but the mess the organizers leave behind.
It's a bloody mess. It seems every junction has some form of neon arrows (often multiple) zip-tied to them from a past sportive. We had the Womens ToB through last week, so miles of A-Road now have neon 'Cycle Event' signs cable tied to every post.
It's just another form of litter. I 'feel' like organisers used to take this a bit more seriously and go around removing thier signage, but it seems like thats gone by the wayside.
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It's a bloody mess. It seems every junction has some form of neon arrows (often multiple) zip-tied to them from a past sportive. We had the Womens ToB through last week, so miles of A-Road now have neon 'Cycle Event' signs cable tied to every post.
It's just another form of litter. I 'feel' like organisers used to take this a bit more seriously and go around removing thier signage, but it seems like thats gone by the wayside.
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Not just their signage - but any signage that has been left when they remove theirs ... although how do you know it's been left if you don't regularly travel the road and know that the "caution cycle event" sign has been up for months ...Peat wrote:It's just another form of litter. I 'feel' like organisers used to take this a bit more seriously and go around removing thier signage, but it seems like thats gone by the wayside.
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Should be covered under 'fly posting' which is a criminal offence.
Taken from East Riding council website:Fly-posting is the act of attaching advertising posters, signs, flyers or stickers, without permission, on lampposts, trees, litter bins or any other structure on the highway (roads and footpaths), including staking them in the grass verge.
(Flyposting) is a criminal offence under the Highways Act 1980 and fly-posters can be reported to the council.
Fly-posting, such as posters and leaflets, can be an obstruction, nuisance or danger to road and footpath users , potentially causing a road traffic accident. We can remove fly-posting and the costs incurred in doing so can be charged to the person responsible for placing them.
We can also issue a fixed penalty notice of £75 per illegal item placed on the highway. If you have placed 5 posters, you would be fined £375.0 -
We get this around here, however you could see it as a potential help as when motorists see "Caution Cyclists, Cycle Route etc" signs they may not know event was weeks ago and hopefully be a bit more vigilant.0
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SurferCyclist wrote:We get this around here, however you could see it as a potential help as when motorists see "Caution Cyclists, Cycle Route etc" signs they may not know event was weeks ago and hopefully be a bit more vigilant.
I did see one last night that said "Slow. Busy Intersection Ahead." That one is actually helpful for all road users, so I can let that slip.0 -
If the event has passed the signs should be removed. I'd contact the organisation.0
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SurferCyclist wrote:We get this around here, however you could see it as a potential help as when motorists see "Caution Cyclists, Cycle Route etc" signs they may not know event was weeks ago and hopefully be a bit more vigilant.
Or a potential hindrence when they see that sign up for weeks and get annoyed at the littering caused by cyclists ...0 -
Imposter wrote:Should be covered under 'fly posting' which is a criminal offence.
Taken from East Riding council website:Fly-posting is the act of attaching advertising posters, signs, flyers or stickers, without permission, on lampposts, trees, litter bins or any other structure on the highway (roads and footpaths), including staking them in the grass verge.
(Flyposting) is a criminal offence under the Highways Act 1980 and fly-posters can be reported to the council.
Fly-posting, such as posters and leaflets, can be an obstruction, nuisance or danger to road and footpath users , potentially causing a road traffic accident. We can remove fly-posting and the costs incurred in doing so can be charged to the person responsible for placing them.
We can also issue a fixed penalty notice of £75 per illegal item placed on the highway. If you have placed 5 posters, you would be fined £375.
At a guess, highways and the like would have been consulted through the risk assessment for the event and advised that directional arrows etc would be used as part of the application to run it.
Similarly, part of the agreement would be that they should be removed afterwards?Advocate of disc brakes.0 -
Yes well, depends if you're a glass half full or half empty sort.0
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When I organised the route for the Tour of Britain 2016 stage 3 charity sportive I had arrows/ signs etc made. I also had small stickers with ‘please leave, this sign will be removed by ‘time/ date’, which had late evening on the event date made which were stuck to each sign.
The broom waggon followed behind the last rider and actually removed each sign, the cable tie(s) and any wooden stakes that we had used. Not difficult to do and prevents the general public from being angered by their village being littered by cycling events.
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As it should be done - the problem is when, quite accidentally, a sign gets missed - and that sits there and sits there and sits there ...Pilot Pete wrote:When I organised the route for the Tour of Britain 2016 stage 3 charity sportive I had arrows/ signs etc made. I also had small stickers with ‘please leave, this sign will be removed by ‘time/ date’, which had late evening on the event date made which were stuck to each sign.
The broom waggon followed behind the last rider and actually removed each sign, the cable tie(s) and any wooden stakes that we had used. Not difficult to do and prevents the general public from being angered by their village being littered by cycling events.
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there are a few junctions that are used for lots of events - and it only takes one event to miss their sign and the build up occurs ... nobody knows/remembers who's sign it is, why it's there or if it can be removed ...
Labeling the signs (any temporary road sign for that matter) so we know who the owner is and the duration they should be there for would mean that the signs can be cleared away without concern of leaving the event un-signed.0 -
Good point, we also had our club name and contact number printed permanently on the signs we had made...
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Apart from anything else - they're expensive to replace ...Pilot Pete wrote:Good point, we also had our club name and contact number printed permanently on the signs we had made...
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well depends who puts them up doesnt it ? the signage for the actual route of the stages on the Womens Tour comes down on the day as they all drive around in Yodel vans collecting everything as they get reused, and in fact this year only went up the day of the stage I think.
the "theres a cycle event happening on this day" signs tend to get put up by councils, the more prominent ones tend to get picked up as they can be reused, but there are still some left on roads Ive ridden on from two or more years back.
one of the sportives that runs around East Anglia spray paints pink arrows on the road to follow, which can last for weeks if it doesnt rain, which is fine except when it clashes with another sportive who uses pink arrow signs and the routes cross...0 -
I always fancied having one of the Tour de Yorkshire signs to put in the garage but they have been taken down with in hours of the race passing through.0
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I've tidied away a couple of tour and giro ones...0
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Moaning on the internet works.
The ToB signs were taken down yesterday and it looks like they tidied up a load of the other ones (that were on the same posts).0 -
cougie wrote:I've tidied away a couple of tour and giro ones...
Before or after the race came through
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The number of people on the Tour of Cambridge just throwing things on the verge was gob-smacking. I took a few numbers down in my head, but by the end, I'd forgotten them.
By the way, that was the MAMIL front group on the sportive and not the race sections. I think there was about ten of the front group who thought they were in the Tour de France. It was fast and there was no stopping, but that's your choice.
I had a go at two guys who just randomly threw their empty water bottles into hedges. One I got the eff off from and the other incredulously said, look we take these sportives seriously, we're here to do this properly not to mess around. Yeah, of course, that's what a sportive's for smash it, litter and be an abusive idiot.
If I behaved like that in an LVRC race I'd probably lose my card and get shunted into the hedge along with my bike and my other water bottle.0 -
Tiesetrotter wrote:I had a go at two guys who just randomly threw their empty water bottles into hedges. One I got the eff off from and the other incredulously said, look we take these sportives seriously, we're here to do this properly not to mess around. Yeah, of course, that's what a sportive's for smash it, litter and be an abusive idiot.
These people just sound like massive bellends. I had no idea that anyone was tragic enough to take a sportive that seriously...0 -
Imposter wrote:
These people just sound like massive bellends. I had no idea that anyone was tragic enough to take a sportive that seriously...
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If these bellends actually pinned a number properly for BC/LVRC/TLI road race then they'd be found very lacking.
But they dont.
They persist in making a bad smell for the rest of us in their pursuit of being unremarkable and probably p ssn drivers off at the same time.
If you are one of these people who take sportives 'seriously' . please come on here and defend.0 -
I did the Evans Cycles Hatfield ride today and they have boxes where you can dump your empty energy gel packs and they’ll replace it with a new one.
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Tiesetrotter wrote:
I had a go at two guys who just randomly threw their empty water bottles into hedges. One I got the eff off from and the other incredulously said, look we take these sportives seriously, we're here to do this properly not to mess around. Yeah, of course, that's what a sportive's for smash it, litter and be an abusive idiot.
What utter and total cocks these numpties are. Hanging is too good for them. Absolutely no excuse for littering. None. That'd be a DQ in a triathlon.0
