Drink bottle rubbing on frame. How to stop it?

Alejandrosdog

Matthewfalle wrote:

Webboo wrote:

monkimark wrote:

Something like this?
https://m.bikester.co.uk/708317.html?_c ... BwQAvD_BwE

That’s the thing I’d seen but I couldn’t think where though. However I think the op has flounced off somewhere.

exactly - its a strip of metal with two washers under it where the bolts go to space it out. he's not the cleverest or most grateful so stuff him. he's probably worn a load of the paint off it under the cable ties and bit of inner tube he stuck on there.

none of this is actually very difficult anyway if you have a brain.

its a cr4p bike anyhow so the scratches probably improve it.

#zerocares

Wot some of the mf’s sed

Matthewfalle

jermas wrote:

anyhow, yes in carbon fibre.

drill a hole. stick a riv nut in. screw in bottle cage. its not that difficult - its a mass produced Taiwanese plastic frame. You don't honestly think its hand crafted exotica do you?

either way, no one actually cares.

How could a bottle causing a slight frame rub turn into get you drill out and start drilling and riveting your frame? BAD ADVICE!!
As you would put it #sledgehammertocrackanut.
Also all carbon frames are handcrafted, "exotica" or not.

how could not knowing how to change a bottle cage cause such a drama in the first place.

and - its not bad advice. The OP ignored evey other bit of advice before flouncincing off. its an option. its a cheap carbon frame which is just a bunch of tubes. its not difficult. ALTERNATIVE OPTION.

People on here are happy to drill holes in things to fit di2, internal cables etc so its not a biggie at all.

and no they aren't. they are knocked out by the thousands in Taiwan and China.

get mould. stick carbon sheet and glue in. remove from mould. stick in front of robot and paint & stick stickers on.

job jobbed.

#don'tbelievethehypee.
#don'tbelievetheclubbie
#don'tbelievethesalesman

jermas

Yes all by hand- handcrafted. How are exotic frames made differently?

slowbike

@Franco - don't flounce off in a huff - you're going to get all sorts of responses on here - some good, some bad, some joking, some not understanding the situation. You've provided limited info and we're not all experts in bottle cage dimensions.

You CAN drill holls in carbon fibre - it's perfectly possible - may be not desirable and probably OTT for this issue - but it is possible - and doesn't damage the bike either.

I'm not sure the metal plate is the best solution either - it'll look a bit odd IMHO. It'd work though - you could easily get a small plate, weld on either a nut or stud or get it thick enough to tap a thread and move the bottle cage up an inch.

The tape method isn't brilliant IMHO - it'll rub through - so it's a short term solution
My suggestion of popping something under the bottle to lift it isn't brilliant either - but it'd work short term.


The best solution is to find another bottle cage - easy way to do this would be to measure from the bottom the current cage (inside where the bottle rests) to the mounting hole - then take that measurement into a bike shop (or take the cage) and see if they've got something that offers a smaller measurement. and you could post some photos on here with the measurement and we could measure our cages and let you know if they're any better...

Or you could get a different bottle...

Whatever - flouncing off because someone makes a crap (to you) suggestion isn't going to help you now is it ...

Matthewfalle

jermas wrote:

Yes all by hand- handcrafted. How are exotic frames made differently?

no - mainsteeam are not hand crafted. they are made in open moulds.

A Parlee/Lightweight/Look/Time/Bastion that sort of thing will be hand crafted, this Dale is cheap open mould. banged out by the thousand.

My S3 & S5 are not handcrafted. They are made in their thousands in a factory in Taiwan. Same for Giant
, Specialised, 'Dale, etc. Big factory, open mould.

What makes you think they are hand crafted by Elven workers using tools made of unobtanium?

what are you riding out of interest?

#don'tbelievethehype

jermas

You CAN drill holls in carbon fibre - it's perfectly possible - may be not desirable and probably OTT for this issue - but it is possible - and doesn't damage the bike either.

It might affect your warranty though. On very thin carbon tubing, drilling it may very well cause weakness. Don't drill carbon handlebars, stems, seatposts.

MF I think it's you that shouldn't believe the hype!! Exotic bikes are made in moulds too (often in Taiwan). Mainstream bikes made in big factories, in moulds (by hand), in Taiwan by carbon experts by the thousand- all sounds good to me. Cars are made in big factories, they seem pretty good also. It's you that thinks exotic bikes are made differently - all carbon is HAND laid in moulds no witchcraft involved.

Never mind what I'm riding it's not important. It wouldn't make me more or less of man.

slowbike

jermas wrote:

You CAN drill holls in carbon fibre - it's perfectly possible - may be not desirable and probably OTT for this issue - but it is possible - and doesn't damage the bike either.

It might affect your warranty though. On very thin carbon tubing, drilling it may very well cause weakness. Don't drill carbon handlebars, stems, seatposts.

MF I think it's you that shouldn't believe the hype!! Exotic bikes are made in moulds too (often in Taiwan). Mainstream bikes made in big factories, in moulds (by hand), in Taiwan by carbon experts by the thousand- all sounds good to me. Cars are made in big factories, they seem pretty good also. It's you that thinks exotic bikes are made differently - all carbon is HAND laid in moulds no witchcraft involved.

Never mind what I'm riding it's not important. It wouldn't make me more or less of man.

Of course, yes - it'll affect warranty ...

Does handmade = hand crafted? Does crafted infer greater care and attention - by craftsmen, rather than just cheap labour doing production line tasks... ?

Garry H

Similar to Matthew's suggestion. Two slot version should do the trick. Bolts are sunken

https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/col ... ory-device

Or just make something similar. (I was lazy, so just bought one. Sigma Sports are distributors in UK)

me-109

Put a washer or two between the frame and underside of bottle cage mounting points. That will move cage and bottle out from frame at naff all cost.

Ben6899

Me-109 wrote:

Put a washer or two between the frame and underside of bottle cage mounting points. That will move cage and bottle out from frame at naff all cost.

That will move the offending bottle closer to the opposite tube.

me-109

Ben6899 wrote:

Me-109 wrote:

Put a washer or two between the frame and underside of bottle cage mounting points. That will move cage and bottle out from frame at naff all cost.

That will move the offending bottle closer to the opposite tube.

A mm or two. Is clearance between bottles that much of an issue? Ive not seen anything in the earlier posts to suggest it is rubbing on the opposite tube so was assuming the shape of the bottle was causing it to rub on the same tube as the cage holding it.

Edited for autochange frock-up.

Ben6899

I assumed that the bottle cage mounts on one tube are so positioned that the bottle held there is low enough that its base fouls the opposite tube. Using washers behind the cage will exacerbate this.

Must be a tiny frame (which might explain the slightly aggro attitude).

Maybe the OP can clarify.

Alejandrosdog

Ben6899 wrote:

Must be a tiny frame (which might explain the slightly aggro attitude).

best comment ive seen in years. Exactly what id thought too

Matthewfalle

Alejandrosdog wrote:

Ben6899 wrote:

Must be a tiny frame (which might explain the slightly aggro attitude).

best comment ive seen in years. Exactly what id thought too

exactomodo.

#napoleononabike