Wheel choice

fatladattheback
fatladattheback Posts: 26
edited April 2019 in Road buying advice
Hi,
I am buying a new set of wheels. I currently ride Vision Team 30's. They came stock on the bike and I now want something newer, shinier and a bit better.

DT Swiss 1400 Dicut (either oxic coated or cheaper non coated, same wheel just not coated)
https://www.merlincycles.com/dt-swiss-p ... 01032.html

Mavic Ksyrium Pro
https://www.merlincycles.com/mavic-ksyr ... 14463.html

I had initially wanted the DT Swiss Wheels but am leaning towards the Mavics Ksyrium Pros' for the simple reason that they come with tyres and will save me a few quid as I won't need to buy any. (They both weigh roughly the same and are tubeless, although I am not sure I will bother using them as a tubeless set up.)

Merlin links are for reference, I have seen both wheelsets cheaper online elsewhere with not much difference in price between them.

Has anyone any experiences/advice on any of the wheelsets above?
Thanks,

Comments

  • singleton
    singleton Posts: 2,523
    To answer your question - it would be good to know in what way you would consider either of these to be "better" than the vision team 30's.
  • Both are lighter, (500g)have an option if needed to run tubeless.(Not hugely important to me at the moment) The visions are an Aksium level wheelset.
    The others, in particular the DT Swiss are made on 240s hubs which I've only heard good things about.
  • singleton
    singleton Posts: 2,523
    At your price point I'd go for something with at lest a bit of aero benefit.
    Maybe these:
    https://www.merlincycles.com/fulcrum-ra ... source=PHG
  • joe_totale-2
    joe_totale-2 Posts: 1,333
    Singleton wrote:
    At your price point I'd go for something with at lest a bit of aero benefit.
    Maybe these:
    https://www.merlincycles.com/fulcrum-ra ... source=PHG

    At the same price as those DT Swiss wheels you could get some proper aero, carbon jobbies. Off the top of my head Prime, Zuus or straight from a decent Chinese producer such as Light Bicycle or Farsports do wheels for that budget.
  • rafletcher
    rafletcher Posts: 1,235
    And I'd counter that cheap carbon wheels are a worse buy than top end alu wheels like the DT Swiss ones.
  • joe_totale-2
    joe_totale-2 Posts: 1,333
    rafletcher wrote:
    And I'd counter that cheap carbon wheels are a worse buy than top end alu wheels like the DT Swiss ones.

    I'd say that it depends on the purpose of these wheels. It'd really help if the original poster could tell us what he's going to use the wheels for.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Joe Totale wrote:
    rafletcher wrote:
    And I'd counter that cheap carbon wheels are a worse buy than top end alu wheels like the DT Swiss ones.

    I'd say that it depends on the purpose of these wheels. It'd really help if the original poster could tell us what he's going to use the wheels for.

    Cycling?
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Without an idea on how far and how often you cycle and over which terrain, any of the advice above is a waste of words
    ... and seeing your name, how fat you really are too
    left the forum March 2023
  • fatladattheback
    fatladattheback Posts: 26
    edited April 2019
    Hi,
    The wheels are for club spins, sportives etc. I don't race. I haven't much faith in carbon rims in the wet. I am between 80-85kg and don't fancy carbon rims to try and stop me in a hurry in the wet.
    I also don't want to fork out for carbon brake pads every few weeks, perhaps I am listening to too much scaremongering/misinformation.
    I ride a mix of flat and rolling spins, with a some hilly spins in summer, 1500-2000m of climbing.

    I understand the DT Swiss hubs are probably better than the mavics, but the mavics come with tyres and are in themselves not a bad wheel.

    Cheers,
  • Has anyone any experiences/advice on any of the wheelsets above?

    Yes on the Mavics. I actually went for the cheaper Ksyrium UST in the end rather than the pro as I did not notice any discernible difference between the two and mine were a few hundred quid cheaper. Good wheelset, responsive and stiff enough for me, had no issues with hubs/bearings at all. I would say that they feel more comfortable to me when compared to something like a campag wheel (Zonda, neutron for example). I can't say whether that is down to the wheel itself or the tires but at the same pressure as other wheel/tyres I have, the Mavic aren't as harsh on poor road surfaces.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Nothing wrong with carbon wheels at your weight. You're not really that heavy. Yes you lose some performance in the wet but it's not that bad unless you often come to abrupt stops (does anyone, outside of commuting?)

    Brake pads last ages and are cheap (Wiggle Lifeline are absolutely great).
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    What exactly is great about DT Swiss hubs. I'm still trying to work it out. Relaible bearings. Well DT Swiss dont have a monopoly on that.
    DT Swiss rims have a sharp bead hook. not recommended for tubeless tyres. Also no bead lock. Mavic UST is a better tubeless standard, much better.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • Thanks for your help. I am going to go with the Mavics.
  • Good choice. I have a set of the Mavics and they are great. I run them tubeless. My expensive carbon aero wheels are my spares even when racing.
  • clubsport
    clubsport Posts: 51
    No affiliation, but this seems like a good deal?

    https://www.slanecycles.com/mavic-ksyri ... dYEALw_wcB
  • Joe Totale wrote:
    rafletcher wrote:
    And I'd counter that cheap carbon wheels are a worse buy than top end alu wheels like the DT Swiss ones.

    I'd say that it depends on the purpose of these wheels. It'd really help if the original poster could tell us what he's going to use the wheels for.

    Cycling?

    As Meatloaf said "You took the words right out of my mouth"