Wheels for climbing with....

Looking for recommendations for a wheel that is light enough to make climbing a little less stressful than it needs to be, NOT ruinously expensive, with a decent braking performance (rims not discs) 'cos I'm not a great descender.
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De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Serious answer, are Dura Ace C24's or Campy Shamals within your price range?
i've also used Kyserium Elites with no problems.
ywo different wheels, two price ranges.
we need more info tbh otherwise we are just chucking random words around.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
I've got some DA C24s - climbing is still hard...
Well the real correct answer is to heed Eddy Merckx and just ride up more hills but I doubt that the original poster will appreciate that.
Increasing Watts per kilo is the best method of course
Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
Scott CR1 SL 12
Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
Scott Foil 18
no they aren't they are heavy and rubbish.
please go away nick.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Very nice wheels, I really enjoy descending and these have no problem slowing from 90+ Kmh using Dura-ace rim brakes.
They don't make going up much easier.
yes actually. they were fitted to a friend's S5 which i rode for a bit. they were junk so we smashed them and screwed the rear one to a bit of wood to use as a trophy.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
imposter: he's moved on from level one already - 15 posts early today.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
He's evolved. Or in Nick's case, he's devolved.
Are these the same USTs you were complaining about before you got banned (again) ??
I bought them as fast training wheels but i just leave them on. because Im enjoying them. Ive serviced the hubs once for good measure but i dont think they needed it.
The thing with climbing is that what goes up must come down and when you do Ive got a lot of confidence in these wheels.
bang for buck they are not any good and are rubbish and half as expensive again as Carbonzones that are stiffer, lighter, roll better, are cooler, brakes as well, make nicer noises and aren't rubbish.
the mavics are rubbish.
now please stop posting tripe.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
I don't know what to buy next though as the DA are good, but dated tech these days?
I've been eyeing up those 1400s myself for a Colnago Master revamp. Good to hear that the coating lasts.
OP I'll second the Fulcrum Zeros/Shamal Ultras - they're very stiff wheels which is what you want for climbing and very light in the aluminium world. Smooth bearings and they also look nice too.
How a wheel "feels" under load is complex but has little to with with weight. It is possible for a 1300g and 1700g wheelset to feel similar going up is the 1700g set is alot stiffer than the lighter set.
Climbing wheels to earn that title need to weight 1000g. Then there is a resonable weight saving.
No idea how much you weigh but losing 1kg or more in body weight will be far more beneficial than spending money on new wheels . . . of course a set of aero wheels will have some benefit on the flats but up hill it’s power to weight with most of the weight being the rider . . .
Do bike and ski stuff.
But what I would say is, braking in the dry is OKish .... in the wet not good, in fact quite worrying really. They are tubular. You can't be heavy. So not exactly practical. But great for going up-hill. Other than those small considerations they are great as a 'not every-day make your bike feel super light' wheelset.
Actually, unless you are a hill climber I wouldn't. But £250 they are yours with a good set of Vittoria CX tubs attached.
For a practical lightweight wheelset look at DCR or Wheelsmith Ascents.
I'd rather lose 1kg on wheels than 1kg in body fat. It's easier and will save on rotational weight. Better still, both would be excellent.
The 'rotational weight' thing is a bit of a fallacy. Firstly, you are presuming that the rims are where the weight is being saved - as opposed to the hubs. Lots of 'light' wheelsets use regular rims, but laced to pared-down hubs with tiny bearings. No rotational weight savings there. Secondly, Newton's laws of motion (specifically those relating to conservation of momentum) suggest that lower rotational weight makes little/no difference over higher rotational weight when moving. Going uphill, the difference is going to be miniscule.
Worth every penny imo.
Fair point, I'll rephrase it, I'd rather have a nicer bike than starve myself for 1kg. I was more pointing out that by his own admission he has no idea what the OP weighs, then says losing weight is 'far more beneficial than spending money on wheels'. Standard internet advice but the two aren't mutually exclusive. Let's face it, the majority of the cycling public could lose weight, doesn't mean we should stop having nice bikes until we do
available in tubular or clincher version https://carbonbikewheels.com.au/eu/prod ... r-wheelset
I wasn’t suggesting that they were mutually exclusive just that he could get faster uphill for free by losing a bit of weight . . . that applies to me too yet I still love my Enve SES 3.4s
Do bike and ski stuff.