storing oil

shiznit76
shiznit76 Posts: 640
edited February 2019 in Workshop
Hi, is it ok to store chain oil in the shed throughout the year, or does the cold temperatures of winter cause issues with it, i.e seperating in factions

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  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    seriously?

    of course it is. its bicycle chain oil, not plutonium.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    It's been sitting in the ground for millions of years - it should be fine in your shed.
  • Dyrnog
    Dyrnog Posts: 8
    Some lubes/oils will thicken and you will have to warm up a little in order to use. From Fenwicks site:

    Directions for use: For best results ensure the Professional Chain Lube is between 8 and 20C and apply to a clean chain
    Twist top cap to regulate flow
    Apply a drop of lube to each roller
    Rotate chain for 20 seconds
    Wipe off excess with clean cloth
    Leave to cure for 3-4 hours before use
    Handy hint: In cold temperatures, heat the Professional lube in a warm cup of water for 1-2 mins or leave on a radiator
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Dyrnog wrote:
    Some lubes/oils will thicken and you will have to warm up a little in order to use.

    Can you name a commercially available oil that you have to 'warm-up' before use..?
  • shiznit76
    shiznit76 Posts: 640
    Dyrnog wrote:
    Some lubes/oils will thicken and you will have to warm up a little in order to use. From Fenwicks site:

    Directions for use: For best results ensure the Professional Chain Lube is between 8 and 20C and apply to a clean chain
    Twist top cap to regulate flow
    Apply a drop of lube to each roller
    Rotate chain for 20 seconds
    Wipe off excess with clean cloth
    Leave to cure for 3-4 hours before use
    Handy hint: In cold temperatures, heat the Professional lube in a warm cup of water for 1-2 mins or leave on a radiator


    Cheers for sensible and non condescending reply
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    shiznit76 wrote:
    Dyrnog wrote:
    Some lubes/oils will thicken and you will have to warm up a little in order to use. From Fenwicks site:

    Directions for use: For best results ensure the Professional Chain Lube is between 8 and 20C and apply to a clean chain
    Twist top cap to regulate flow
    Apply a drop of lube to each roller
    Rotate chain for 20 seconds
    Wipe off excess with clean cloth
    Leave to cure for 3-4 hours before use
    Handy hint: In cold temperatures, heat the Professional lube in a warm cup of water for 1-2 mins or leave on a radiator


    Cheers for sensible and non condescending reply

    Not to mention inaccurate - but as long as you're happy...
  • shiznit76
    shiznit76 Posts: 640
    Imposter wrote:
    shiznit76 wrote:
    Dyrnog wrote:
    Some lubes/oils will thicken and you will have to warm up a little in order to use. From Fenwicks site:

    Directions for use: For best results ensure the Professional Chain Lube is between 8 and 20C and apply to a clean chain
    Twist top cap to regulate flow
    Apply a drop of lube to each roller
    Rotate chain for 20 seconds
    Wipe off excess with clean cloth
    Leave to cure for 3-4 hours before use
    Handy hint: In cold temperatures, heat the Professional lube in a warm cup of water for 1-2 mins or leave on a radiator


    Cheers for sensible and non condescending reply

    Not to mention inaccurate - but as long as you're happy...


    like a sandboy
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    Dyrnog wrote:
    Some lubes/oils will thicken and you will have to warm up a little in order to use. From Fenwicks site:

    Directions for use: For best results ensure the Professional Chain Lube is between 8 and 20C and apply to a clean chain
    Twist top cap to regulate flow
    Apply a drop of lube to each roller
    Rotate chain for 20 seconds
    Wipe off excess with clean cloth
    Leave to cure for 3-4 hours before use
    Handy hint: In cold temperatures, heat the Professional lube in a warm cup of water for 1-2 mins or leave on a radiator

    So in the summer I should pop it in the fridge for half an hour... Drivel of the highest order.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    darkhairedlord wrote:
    Dyrnog wrote:
    Some lubes/oils will thicken and you will have to warm up a little in order to use. From Fenwicks site:

    Directions for use: For best results ensure the Professional Chain Lube is between 8 and 20C and apply to a clean chain
    Twist top cap to regulate flow
    Apply a drop of lube to each roller
    Rotate chain for 20 seconds
    Wipe off excess with clean cloth
    Leave to cure for 3-4 hours before use
    Handy hint: In cold temperatures, heat the Professional lube in a warm cup of water for 1-2 mins or leave on a radiator

    So in the summer I should pop it in the fridge for half an hour... Drivel of the highest order.

    then you have to take into account spring & autumn variances as well.

    blimey.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • Dyrnog
    Dyrnog Posts: 8
    As said some oils, including Fenwicks, has higher viscosity when cold. Having left Fenwicks in the garage in winter then tried to put some oil on the chain the stuff wont come out of the bottle. Simples really, which is why Fenwicks put the info on the bottle and their website. Obviously does not apply to all oils.

    PS
    Pretty sure its refined a little when taken out of the ground so properties may change, and of course its a bit warmer down there in the ground

    Hope this helps:-)

    PPS Why are people so aggressive on this forum?
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Dyrnog wrote:
    As said some oils, including Fenwicks, has higher viscosity when cold. Having left Fenwicks in the garage in winter then tried to put some oil on the chain the stuff wont come out of the bottle. Simples really, which is why Fenwicks put the info on the bottle and their website. Obviously does not apply to all oils.

    So what happens when you heat the oil to the required temperature, apply it - and then go for a ride when it's only 3deg outside? Seriously - oil viscosity is a great topic for motorcycle and car forums, but does not really have a place in a discussion about bicycle chain lube. You are falling for the marketing bullshit. If you buy a chain oil that won't come out of the bottle unless your thermometer reads 8+deg, then throw it away and get another oil that will...
    Dyrnog wrote:
    PPS Why are people so aggressive on this forum?

    People don't agree with your assertion that oil viscosity has a place in a discussion about bicycle chain lubes. Sorry if you think that's aggressive. It really isn't.
  • Dyrnog
    Dyrnog Posts: 8
    Think its a pretty good oil which is why I use it, its not much trouble to keep in the house or warm up before use. Not marketing bull shit as it will not come out of the bottle when cold.

    Maybe Fenwicks could change the formula or bottle, guess their marketing guys must think its ok.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Dyrnog wrote:
    guess their marketing guys must think its ok.

    I'm sure they sell loads of it, tbf.

    Ipone (Japanese oil company) used to sell a strawberry-scented two-stroke oil. Very popular. Some people like that kind of thing and some companies will do anything for sales. I used to use Putoline RS959 instead. It didn't smell of strawberries.
  • step83
    step83 Posts: 4,170
    The only possible thing you may have is if theres anything else in the oil it might separate, but to be fair thats usually just from leaving it standing for a while, a quick shake usually solves that.
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  • figbat
    figbat Posts: 680
    Dyrnog wrote:
    As said some oils, including Fenwicks, has higher viscosity when cold.
    All oils have a higher viscsoity when cold. In fact pretty much all liquids do.
    Dyrnog wrote:
    Pretty sure its refined a little when taken out of the ground so properties may change, and of course its a bit warmer down there in the ground
    All true, but the refining process will tend to reduce the chance of any cold-related drop-out by removing the heavier, waxy substances from the oil. A low quality mineral oil may well go waxy at recent ambient temperatures, but there are plenty of other oils to choose that won't.

    Unlike engine or transmission oils, there's not much in a bicycle chain oil other than oil (ie, little or nothing in the way of additives).
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  • haydenm
    haydenm Posts: 2,997
    Imposter wrote:
    Dyrnog wrote:
    Some lubes/oils will thicken and you will have to warm up a little in order to use.

    Can you name a commercially available oil that you have to 'warm-up' before use..?

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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    ok - apart from cooking oil... ;)
  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    Imposter wrote:
    ok - apart from cooking oil... ;)

    when it's "a little chilly" outside - I can't move my gear stick on my car until the engine's warmed it up a bit ... although that's probably a sign that the oil needs changing :o
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    Slowbike wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    ok - apart from cooking oil... ;)

    when it's "a little chilly" outside - I can't move my gear stick on my car until the engine's warmed it up a bit ... although that's probably a sign that the oil needs changing :o

    Or you've got water somewhere it shouldn't be and it's frozen? Can't see the viscocity of gear box oil on its own stopping you selecting gear...
  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    keef66 wrote:
    Slowbike wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    ok - apart from cooking oil... ;)

    when it's "a little chilly" outside - I can't move my gear stick on my car until the engine's warmed it up a bit ... although that's probably a sign that the oil needs changing :o

    Or you've got water somewhere it shouldn't be and it's frozen? Can't see the viscocity of gear box oil on its own stopping you selecting gear...
    yup - probably ... it's not been changed since new ... and it's "a few years old" ....

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