Triathlete banned

Vino'sGhost
Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
edited January 2019 in Road general
This guy is an arsehole https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... e-47009149

But I’ve aeeen the same behaviour at sportives. Usually the London crowd. Massive bunch of cnuts

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  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    He was a dick and deserved punishment.

    But if you do it in a car you're fine.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-c ... e-40134629
  • StillGoing
    StillGoing Posts: 5,211
    cougie wrote:
    He was a dick and deserved punishment.

    But if you do it in a car you're fine.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-c ... e-40134629

    Oh the "Us and them" argument again. So one driver isn't prosecuted means that dickhead shouldn't be prosecuted either. :roll:
    I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.
  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,473
    philthy3 wrote:
    cougie wrote:
    He was a dick and deserved punishment.

    But if you do it in a car you're fine.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-c ... e-40134629

    Oh the "Us and them" argument again. So one driver isn't prosecuted means that dickhead shouldn't be prosecuted either. :roll:
    Eh? That's almost the opposite of what he said!
  • I'll second the above, in that I'm pretty sure that the implication of that post is that the driver from the second video should have been prosecuted (i.e. not given just the Driver Awareness option).
    The only mitigating factor I can see is that the driver's actions were unintentional (taking the corner too quickly) whereas the cyclist apparently chose, consciously, to 'undertake' the horse. I'm not sure that this mitigation (which, I'll reinforce, is my view of it) is sufficient to warrant the sanctions given.
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    philthy3 wrote:
    cougie wrote:
    He was a dick and deserved punishment.

    But if you do it in a car you're fine.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-c ... e-40134629

    Oh the "Us and them" argument again. So one driver isn't prosecuted means that dickhead shouldn't be prosecuted either. :roll:

    Durrrr .

    Did you even read what I wrote ?
  • Good to see the worst offending cyclist in that clip I recall from last year was identified and prosecuted, little surprised more than one were not punished in some form though.
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  • timothyw
    timothyw Posts: 2,482
    That car clip is horrific. Are we sure Prince Philip wasn't driving?
  • At early age of 25, I came to terms with the fact that life is truly unfair and not all justice isn't "just."

    I can't really see the proportion being balanced between that triathlete and the driver who mowed over two horses and their riders.

    That happened to bringing justice for Madeline? Khasshogi? Skripal?

    Tony Blair and his obsession of WMD?
    Shoreham disaster Hunter pilot Andrew Hill?
    What about that guy who was hiding in Georgia to avoid prosecution for speedboat date killing?
    Oh, the B word...

    Heck, look what happened to Jesus.

    Ok, I blew it out of proportion. Too much coffee this morning.
  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,473
    At early age of 25, I came to terms with the fact that life is truly unfair and not all justice isn't "just."

    I can't really see the proportion being balanced between that triathlete and the driver who mowed over two horses and their riders.

    That happened to bringing justice for Madeline? Khasshogi? Skripal?

    Tony Blair and his obsession of WMD?
    Shoreham disaster Hunter pilot Andrew Hill?
    What about that guy who was hiding in Georgia to avoid prosecution for speedboat date killing?
    Oh, the B word...

    Heck, look what happened to Jesus.

    Ok, I blew it out of proportion. Too much coffee this morning.
    Not quite sure what your point is.

    That a completely just and fair society is impossible, therefore we should give up all attempts to make it as just and fair as we can? That way lies despair, chaos and much more injustice and unfairness.

    Regarding justice though, there's a difficult debate to be had about what exactly that is and what the philosophical basis of punishment is. Should we punish people to make the victims and the rest of society feel better (retribution), to deter others from committing the same acts, to reform them so that they don't it again, or (for serious crimes) to prevent them from doing it again by keeping them locked away? Or some vauge and woolly combination of some or all of these things?
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    This guy is an arsehole https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... e-47009149

    But I’ve seen the same behaviour at sportives. Usually the London crowd. Massive bunch of cnuts

    Nice sweeping generalisation, lad.
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  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    Ben6899 wrote:
    This guy is an arsehole https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... e-47009149

    But I’ve seen the same behaviour at sportives. Usually the London crowd. Massive bunch of cnuts

    Nice sweeping generalisation, lad.

    Just saying what I see boy.
  • Ben6899 wrote:
    This guy is an arsehole https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... e-47009149

    But I’ve seen the same behaviour at sportives. Usually the London crowd. Massive bunch of cnuts

    Nice sweeping generalisation, lad.

    Just saying what I see boy.

    You've seen riders riding into horses?
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Ben6899 wrote:
    This guy is an arsehole https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... e-47009149

    But I’ve seen the same behaviour at sportives. Usually the London crowd. Massive bunch of cnuts

    Nice sweeping generalisation, lad.

    Just saying what I see boy.

    Ah come on, people do enough generalising when it comes to cycling; let's not have it from each other!
    Ben

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