Chris Froome's power data showing on strava? (other pro's as well)
MishMash95
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Hey,
just noticed something rather odd, not sure if i've missed news but was just browsing Strava and saw that I could see Chris Froome's (https://www.strava.com/pros/7491815) power and heart rate data O:! Some pretty interesting stuff:
461w for 24 minutes :x
It all seems legit, but I was under the impression all of this data was kept private. There seem to be quite a clear mix of interval workouts and just general endurance rides. Looking at his Famous "Empty the Tank" ride:
And just another random workout: https://www.strava.com/activities/1366433749
I also noticed that it's showing data for other pro's as well. I know Richie Porte normally had his data left private but his is showing as well:
Could be a bug with strava, either way, it's interesting to actually be able to see this!
just noticed something rather odd, not sure if i've missed news but was just browsing Strava and saw that I could see Chris Froome's (https://www.strava.com/pros/7491815) power and heart rate data O:! Some pretty interesting stuff:
461w for 24 minutes :x
It all seems legit, but I was under the impression all of this data was kept private. There seem to be quite a clear mix of interval workouts and just general endurance rides. Looking at his Famous "Empty the Tank" ride:
And just another random workout: https://www.strava.com/activities/1366433749
I also noticed that it's showing data for other pro's as well. I know Richie Porte normally had his data left private but his is showing as well:
Could be a bug with strava, either way, it's interesting to actually be able to see this!
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That empty the tank ride! But also 45kph for 230w...was he riding a TT bike? I wish I went 27mph while riding at 230w.0
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Chris Froome in Faster Bike Rider than you SHOCKER!
Interesting stuff though. Traditionally (Merckx, Fignon inter alia) an empty the tank ride would be motorpaced, which would explain the high speed vs lower watts (plus, just maybe, he has a better position and aero kit than you ;-))0 -
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TimothyW wrote:Chris Froome in Faster Bike Rider than you SHOCKER!
Interesting stuff though. Traditionally (Merckx, Fignon inter alia) an empty the tank ride would be motorpaced, which would explain the high speed vs lower watts (plus, just maybe, he has a better position and aero kit than you ;-))
I'm not saying I could do 230ws for 200km! All I am saying is that for me to be going 27mph I need to be doing, I dunno, 350W+. I am a bit heavier, sure, but shorter than Froome. I don't have quite the bike he has but it's a decent aero frame with Zipp 404s, so I was wondering how he is doing that speed for 100W+ less than I can. Motor pacing would probably explain it.0 -
joey54321 wrote:I'm not saying I could do 230ws for 200km! All I am saying is that for me to be going 27mph I need to be doing, I dunno, 350W+. I am a bit heavier, sure, but shorter than Froome. I don't have quite the bike he has but it's a decent aero frame with Zipp 404s, so I was wondering how he is doing that speed for 100W+ less than I can. Motor pacing would probably explain it.
Or a slight downhill / favourable wind0 -
Pretty certain he'd said his empty the tank ride was motor paced.0
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Aye it was motor paced, sure he posted a picture of him doing it0
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Interesting stuff.
Speed could also be affected by road surface, I know UK roads are usually credited with a noticeable reduction in average speeds (a handful of kph) just due to the materials used, compared to European roads. No idea how that compares with SA though.0 -
What is the advantage of motorpacing a long ride other than psychological - you feel that you are going really well? Isn't 230w for 200k the same whatever speed you are going or is there something to be gained by motorpacing to mimic being in the peloton?[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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joey54321 wrote:
I'm not saying I could do 230ws for 200km!
He'd only be riding for a little over 4 hours at that speed so you probably could.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
DeVlaeminck wrote:What is the advantage of motorpacing a long ride other than psychological - you feel that you are going really well? Isn't 230w for 200k the same whatever speed you are going or is there something to be gained by motorpacing to mimic being in the peloton?
Can’t ease up ever.
You spend much time riding in a group? It’s just a different type of effort to solo.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:DeVlaeminck wrote:What is the advantage of motorpacing a long ride other than psychological - you feel that you are going really well? Isn't 230w for 200k the same whatever speed you are going or is there something to be gained by motorpacing to mimic being in the peloton?
Can’t ease up ever.
You spend much time riding in a group? It’s just a different type of effort to solo.
Yeah it's also the constant responding to the small accelerations, having to get back on the wheel after a corner and that stuff0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:DeVlaeminck wrote:What is the advantage of motorpacing a long ride other than psychological - you feel that you are going really well? Isn't 230w for 200k the same whatever speed you are going or is there something to be gained by motorpacing to mimic being in the peloton?
Can’t ease up ever.
You spend much time riding in a group? It’s just a different type of effort to solo.
What I mean is, does 230 watts giving you 28mph behind a scooter or a car give you a different training effect to 230 watts doing 20mph on your own? I could do either without easing up but I think I'd rather not ride close behind a vehicle through choice unless there was some reason to.
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That’s actually really interesting info.0
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DeVlaeminck wrote:
What I mean is, does 230 watts giving you 28mph behind a scooter or a car give you a different training effect to 230 watts doing 20mph on your own? I could do either without easing up but I think I'd rather not ride close behind a vehicle through choice unless there was some reason to.
Maybe the wrong forum.
If nothing else it changes the inertial load to more accurately simulate riding in a bunch.0 -
Yeah, that - specificity wise, better to train at 45kph for riding at 45kph in the bunch on the tour than on your turbo at the same wattage (or solo going slower).
Probably also means you've got someone around to fix punctures too....
Back in the day, they used to have motorpaced races over somewhat incredible distances (and at pretty crazy speeds) - certain riders specialised in it.
Laurent Fignon wrote about his 'empty the tank' rides before his wins at Milan San Remo - long, motorpaced fasted rides to completely empty the bodies glycogen stores, encouraging it to then respond by 'overfilling' them, giving him more energy for the race day.0 -
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TimothyW wrote:Laurent Fignon wrote about his 'empty the tank' rides before his wins at Milan San Remo - long, motorpaced fasted rides to completely empty the bodies glycogen stores, encouraging it to then respond by 'overfilling' them, giving him more energy for the race day.
Apparently, physiologically, that effect doesn't really exist. Just means you add a very large training load (=fatigue) right before an important event. Of course, everyone else was probably doing much the same and Fignon was just better than them anyway...0 -
joey54321 wrote:DeVlaeminck wrote:
What I mean is, does 230 watts giving you 28mph behind a scooter or a car give you a different training effect to 230 watts doing 20mph on your own? I could do either without easing up but I think I'd rather not ride close behind a vehicle through choice unless there was some reason to.
Maybe the wrong forum.
If nothing else it changes the inertial load to more accurately simulate riding in a bunch.
That's the kind of thing I was thinking of and it's not something you see discussed much on cycling forums - possibly because it's an irrelevance of course![Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
