Do you use the same cassette on your turbo and your bike?

dubcat

If I use different cassettes (same mode/type obviously) on my smart turbo and my bike, won't they wear at different rates, leading to problems? Or, do you guys switch the cassette from your bike to your turbo and vice versa?

Tetragrammaton1

Dubcat wrote:

If I use different cassettes (same mode/type obviously) on my smart turbo and my bike, won't they wear at different rates, leading to problems? Or, do you guys switch the cassette from your bike to your turbo and vice versa?

In the ideal world you would have one dedicated chain and cassette for the bike whilst out riding in the real world , and a dedicated chain and cassette for the turbo. I don’t know many people who’d actually bother though. Obviously you’d get through a few quick links over time, but hey ho.

dubcat

Tetragrammaton1 wrote:

Dubcat wrote:

If I use different cassettes (same mode/type obviously) on my smart turbo and my bike, won't they wear at different rates, leading to problems? Or, do you guys switch the cassette from your bike to your turbo and vice versa?

In the ideal world you would have one dedicated chain and cassette for the bike whilst out riding in the real world , and a dedicated chain and cassette for the turbo. I don’t know many people who’d actually bother though.

So what do they do? use two cassettes and one chain? or switch the cassette from wheel to trainer?

slowbike

Dedicated bike on the turbo ... problem solved.

Tetragrammaton1

Dubcat wrote:

Tetragrammaton1 wrote:

Dubcat wrote:

If I use different cassettes (same mode/type obviously) on my smart turbo and my bike, won't they wear at different rates, leading to problems? Or, do you guys switch the cassette from your bike to your turbo and vice versa?

In the ideal world you would have one dedicated chain and cassette for the bike whilst out riding in the real world , and a dedicated chain and cassette for the turbo. I don’t know many people who’d actually bother though.

So what do they do? use two cassettes and one chain? or switch the cassette from wheel to trainer?

Use quick links. The ones on the turbo chain would be perfectly fine to reuse, you’d probably have to replace the link for the chain On the bike if you then used it in the real world, if you wanted to be super safe, as there’s no risk of ending up bouncing down the road if the trainer chain failed whilst on the trainer, at the re used quick link point.

dubcat

Tetragrammaton1 wrote:

Dubcat wrote:

Tetragrammaton1 wrote:

Dubcat wrote:

If I use different cassettes (same mode/type obviously) on my smart turbo and my bike, won't they wear at different rates, leading to problems? Or, do you guys switch the cassette from your bike to your turbo and vice versa?

In the ideal world you would have one dedicated chain and cassette for the bike whilst out riding in the real world , and a dedicated chain and cassette for the turbo. I don’t know many people who’d actually bother though.

So what do they do? use two cassettes and one chain? or switch the cassette from wheel to trainer?

Use quick links. The ones on the turbo chain would be perfectly fine to reuse, you’d probably have to replace the link for the chain On the bike if you then used it in the real world, if you wanted to be super safe, as there’s no risk of ending up bouncing down the road if the trainer chain failed whilst on the trainer, at the re used quick link point.

Sorry - what does that mean? I've not been on or around bikes for several years.

grenw

Got an old bike permanently on a direct drive turbo now. Before that when I had a wheel on turbo, I had an old wheel with a turbo tyre on and its own cassette. The chain stayed with the bike. Never seemed to be a problem

Changing a wheel over was as much as I would be bothered to do. Changing a cassette over a couple of times a week. No thanks!

dannbodge

Yep.
I use the same cassette on my road wheels as on the turbo.

I have two bikes, when one is on the trainer the other is on the road (Summer and winter bikes)

dubcat

OK - i only have one bike and it can't live on the turbo. So, are you guys suggesting I switch the cassette from bike to trainer and vice versa rather than just buying a new cassette for the trainer then?

imposter2.0

Dubcat wrote:

If I use different cassettes (same mode/type obviously) on my smart turbo and my bike, won't they wear at different rates, leading to problems? Or, do you guys switch the cassette from your bike to your turbo and vice versa?

They may very well wear at marginally different rates - but this is unlikely to lead to 'problems'. Not worthy of concern, IMO...

cougie

Is this a wheel off turbo ?

N0bodyOfTheGoat

When I got my Direto last Xmas, I fitted the spare new 11-32 cassette I had onto the direct drive axle and kept the existing cassette on the original Cube wheels, plus used the existing chain. A little "clunky" on initial gear shifting, but not too bad, as the Cube has still yet to do a proper rainy ride (so chain not that worn).

When I swapped out the cassette and chain on the Cube wheel two weekends ago, I purposely stayed in 34/18 while using the turbo again for the first time since April for the first few rides, before doing some gear shifts during a "race" view of Paterburg on Road Grand Tours on Sunday... Shifts were pretty good, much less "clunky" than I remember last Xmas.

shirley_basso

Dubcat wrote:

Tetragrammaton1 wrote:

Dubcat wrote:

Tetragrammaton1 wrote:

Dubcat wrote:

If I use different cassettes (same mode/type obviously) on my smart turbo and my bike, won't they wear at different rates, leading to problems? Or, do you guys switch the cassette from your bike to your turbo and vice versa?

In the ideal world you would have one dedicated chain and cassette for the bike whilst out riding in the real world , and a dedicated chain and cassette for the turbo. I don’t know many people who’d actually bother though.

So what do they do? use two cassettes and one chain? or switch the cassette from wheel to trainer?

Use quick links. The ones on the turbo chain would be perfectly fine to reuse, you’d probably have to replace the link for the chain On the bike if you then used it in the real world, if you wanted to be super safe, as there’s no risk of ending up bouncing down the road if the trainer chain failed whilst on the trainer, at the re used quick link point.

Sorry - what does that mean? I've not been on or around bikes for several years.

Ignore him. He's assuming the quick link may fail if you reuse it. I've never seen a quick link fail and I rarely throw them away.

handful

Maybe I've got this wrong but direct drive turbos are generally higher end with a decent erg mode so there is very minimal gear changing to worry about so different cassettes should be fine? Shouldn't they?

scott_w1987

handful wrote:

Maybe I've got this wrong but direct drive turbos are generally higher end with a decent erg mode so there is very minimal gear changing to worry about so different cassettes should be fine? Shouldn't they?

ERG mode sets resistance based on power, you still need to change gear to get the cadence for the intervals or to get up hills on Zwift.

Check to see how worn the chain is first? If it’s in good condition then a seperate new cassette will be fine - just give the chain a good clean when swapping between outdoors and indoors. If it’s worn passed .5 on the chain checker replace current cassette, chain on the bike and use the new cassette on the turbo.

In future save some money and buy/build a dedicated turbo bike. Really is the way forward!

pblakeney

Fit a dedicated cassette and stop worrying about it.
Also, ignore the guy saying that this is bad advice.

barongreenback

I use separate cassettes as I don’t have a separate bike for the turbo. Never noticed any issues with poor shifting or chain wear to date.

Tetragrammaton1

Shirley Basso wrote:

Dubcat wrote:

Tetragrammaton1 wrote:

Dubcat wrote:

Tetragrammaton1 wrote:

Dubcat wrote:

If I use different cassettes (same mode/type obviously) on my smart turbo and my bike, won't they wear at different rates, leading to problems? Or, do you guys switch the cassette from your bike to your turbo and vice versa?

In the ideal world you would have one dedicated chain and cassette for the bike whilst out riding in the real world , and a dedicated chain and cassette for the turbo. I don’t know many people who’d actually bother though.

So what do they do? use two cassettes and one chain? or switch the cassette from wheel to trainer?

Use quick links. The ones on the turbo chain would be perfectly fine to reuse, you’d probably have to replace the link for the chain On the bike if you then used it in the real world, if you wanted to be super safe, as there’s no risk of ending up bouncing down the road if the trainer chain failed whilst on the trainer, at the re used quick link point.

Sorry - what does that mean? I've not been on or around bikes for several years.

Ignore him. He's assuming the quick link may fail if you reuse it. I've never seen a quick link fail and I rarely throw them away.

Why would they ignore someone who clearly has more experience of the subject than some of the posters on this thread, and for avoidance of doubt, this means you, and has learned and adjusted through that experience? Isn’t that the idea of a forum?

Tetragrammaton1

Dubcat wrote:

Sorry - what does that mean? I've not been on or around bikes for several years.

It means that quick links are ( generally/ usually) inherently weaker than pinned links, and if you go for accepted ‘best practice’, re using a quick link isn’t the best idea, the problem comes when you have to balance this against the ‘best practice’ of a dedicated chain with a dedicated cassette, but that’s a whole new argument.

imposter2.0

Tetragrammaton1 wrote:

Why would they ignore someone who clearly has more experience of the subject than some of the posters on this thread,

Because you are a clueless, deluded troll. None of your claims to 'superior knowledge' ever stack up. You clearly lack knowledge - and worst of all, from everyone else's point of view, you clearly lack any sort of credibility.

imposter2.0

Tetragrammaton1 wrote:

It means that quick links are ( generally/ usually) inherently weaker than pinned links,

Once again, this is complete and utter nonsense with no basis in fact. If it were true, a chain would always fail at the joining link - which it doesn't.

Tetragrammaton1

Imposter wrote:

Tetragrammaton1 wrote:

It means that quick links are ( generally/ usually) inherently weaker than pinned links,

Once again, this is complete and utter nonsense with no basis in fact. If it were true, a chain would always fail at the joining link - which it doesn't.

It depends on the usage, if you put a lot of work through the chain, until very recently, the quick links were a poor choice. They worked well in an emergency, but couldn’t hold a candle to pinned links. Things have got better recently, to the extent that Shimano supply their chains with Q links now.

imposter2.0

Tetragrammaton1 wrote:

Imposter wrote:

Tetragrammaton1 wrote:

It means that quick links are ( generally/ usually) inherently weaker than pinned links,

Once again, this is complete and utter nonsense with no basis in fact. If it were true, a chain would always fail at the joining link - which it doesn't.

It depends on the usage, if you put a lot of work through the chain, until very recently, the quick links were a poor choice. They worked well in an emergency, but couldn’t hold a candle to pinned links. Things have got better recently, to the extent that Shimano supply their chains with Q links now.

Again, that's absolute made-up nonsense. I don't know if you do this deliberately, or if you genuinely can't help yourself.

Tetragrammaton1

Imposter wrote:

Once again, this is complete and utter nonsense with no basis in fact. If it were true, a chain would always fail at the joining link - which it doesn't.

Based on good old experience/ mileage.

shirley_basso

Mileage uploaded twice doesn't add to component wear.

imposter2.0

Tetragrammaton1 wrote:

Imposter wrote:

Once again, this is complete and utter nonsense with no basis in fact. If it were true, a chain would always fail at the joining link - which it doesn't.

Based on good old experience/ mileage.

Your claimed 'experience' and 'mileage' counts for nothing though - because your answers show that you evidently have no real knowledge of the topics you comment on. Stop embarrassing yourself like this.

pblakeney

Experience/mileage is an interesting proposition.
It results in the higher your mileage, the lower the coefficient. Making sense....