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£7000 and one car to rule them all - what to buy?

bartman100bartman100 Posts: 544
edited October 2018 in The cake stop
Some f*%^£$" idiot wrote off my Mini Cooper JCW.

I've got a budget of £7k.

I commute no more than 30 miles a day. I have one child at Uni and am currently single. I may have dog(s) in the future.

Head says dull, reliable cheap to run - Honda Accord, Golf TDI Bluemotion, Focus Ecoboost.

Heart says an older BMW 335i or a Focus ST.

Don't want something massive - must fit a dog / bike / woman in the boot on the odd occasion (though I wouldn't think at the same time). Plus luggage. Might want to take abroad for a cruise now and again.

What to do? Oh the tyranny of choice :cry:
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  • ProssPross Posts: 22,145
    Why would you get a TDI Bluemotion for 30 miles a day?
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 11,057
    As long as you can afford it, always go with the heart.
    Life is too short.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • FishFishFishFish Posts: 2,238
    pblakeney wrote:
    Life is too short.


    Speak for yourself.
    ...take your pickelf on your holibobs.... :D

    jeez :roll:
  • SEAT Alhambra. Drives like a car, holds stuff like a van. Great for throwing bikes, dogs, kids uni stuff when they move back home, hedge clippings, old furniture, mates moving house etc in the back. And you can go to France and buy lots of bottles of wine before we leave the EU.
    Ecrasez l’infame
  • eric_draveneric_draven Posts: 1,182
    Cheap estate car and a quick motorbike,as you have said you are single,so have the maximum fun we only here once
  • verylonglegsverylonglegs Posts: 3,415
    Last chance saloon for anything with grunt that might be interesting to drive. The move to electric cars will only accelerate and before you know it they will be the norm. Get that 335i or equivalent why you can if you really want it.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 11,057
    FishFish wrote:
    pblakeney wrote:
    Life is too short.


    Speak for yourself.
    You want for yours to end sooner than hoped.
    Hmmmm.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 39,575
    Last chance saloon for anything with grunt that might be interesting to drive. The move to electric cars will only accelerate and before you know it they will be the norm. Get that 335i or equivalent why you can if you really want it.
    True, get something good to drive before they force us to drive milk floats. That said, a £7k budget does restrict his choices a bit for something decent.
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  • Mad_MalxMad_Malx Posts: 3,932
    my nearest city and others are looking at big emission charges for older vehicles. I’d say stay away from pre 2015 diesels (when the standard changed, even if they did then cheat).
  • lesfirthlesfirth Posts: 999
    My car needs are very similar to the OP.
    This is totally impractical but still a wonderful piece of machinery that I am drooling over....... Now how can I manage to have two cars?
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 11,057
    lesfirth wrote:
    My car needs are very similar to the OP.
    This is totally impractical but still a wonderful piece of machinery that I am drooling over....... Now how can I manage to have two cars?
    Some young whippersnapper buy this car please!
    Do it while you can. Milk floats are your future.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • robert88robert88 Posts: 2,706
    When at school we used to get a ride on a milk float, save our bus fare and buy sherbert fountains.

    Get a milk float.
  • Stevo 666 wrote:
    Last chance saloon for anything with grunt that might be interesting to drive. The move to electric cars will only accelerate and before you know it they will be the norm. Get that 335i or equivalent why you can if you really want it.
    True, get something good to drive before they force us to drive milk floats. That said, a £7k budget does restrict his choices a bit for something decent.

    You won't even be allowed to drive it.
  • keef66keef66 Posts: 13,286
    I commute 30 miles a day. If I was 20 years younger I'd do it by bike, but as I approach retirement age I'm afraid I use the car :( (in it's defence it's a tiny weeny A1 which emits less CO2 per mile than I do)

    If I was you I'd get a scooter for work and a 2 litre petrol Focus ST estate, for dogs / bikes / women / university shuttle.
  • protoproto Posts: 1,470
    Citroen Berlingo. The end.
  • drlodgedrlodge Posts: 4,824
    The car you have, or the next one you buy, may well be the last car you buy. Ever.
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  • trek_dantrek_dan Posts: 1,366
    Buy a cheap car for commuting and get a future classic like a 205 GTI or Escort RST for fun.

    I say this for 2 reasons;
    1. All modern cars are boring
    2. You'll have an appreciating asset rather than a depreciating one
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 39,575
    drlodge wrote:
    The car you have, or the next one you buy, may well be the last car you buy. Ever.
    So make it a good one. Which is why he needs more than 7 grand.
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  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 39,575
    trek_dan wrote:
    Buy a cheap car for commuting and get a future classic like a 205 GTI or Escort RST for fun.

    I say this for 2 reasons;
    1. All modern cars are boring
    2. You'll have an appreciating asset rather than a depreciating one
    1 - There are quite a few interesting ones I reckon. Maybe not ones that the OP can afford though.
    2 - Some have already appreciated. Take your 205 GTI example:
    https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/list/87/205+gti/
    Whippet
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    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • cyclecliniccycleclinic Posts: 6,863
    Buy a bike and ride it to work.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • mr_goomr_goo Posts: 3,728
    pblakeney wrote:
    As long as you can afford it, always go with the heart.
    Life is too short.

    Nope!
    Couple of years ago did that and went for an Alfa Giulietta. Lovely car but a more trouble than it was worth.

    Get a Volvo estate.
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • mouthmouth Posts: 1,196
    Girl form work had a 135m (same running gear as the 335) and it was chuffin' mental. My first thought was Focus ST estate, but if it were my cash I'd be looking for a BMW 530D Estate.
    The only disability in life is a poor attitude.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 11,057
    Mr Goo wrote:
    pblakeney wrote:
    As long as you can afford it, always go with the heart.
    Life is too short.

    Nope!
    Couple of years ago did that and went for an Alfa Giulietta. Lovely car but a more trouble than it was worth.

    Get a Volvo estate.
    I wonder how many people on their deathbed have had the thought, "I'm glad I bought that nice sensible Volvo"? About the same number as have thought "Alfas are reliable". :lol:
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • mouthmouth Posts: 1,196
    pblakeney wrote:
    Mr Goo wrote:
    pblakeney wrote:
    As long as you can afford it, always go with the heart.
    Life is too short.

    Nope!
    Couple of years ago did that and went for an Alfa Giulietta. Lovely car but a more trouble than it was worth.

    Get a Volvo estate.
    I wonder how many people on their deathbed have had the thought, "I'm glad I bought that nice sensible Volvo"? About the same number as have thought "Alfas are reliable". :lol:

    but for the 10 minutes (there's no saying that those 10 minutes will be consecutive though) that the Alfa actually works, its motoring heaven.

    My mate had a t5 estate running near to 300 brake, and it was fun for all of the first half of the tip run it was clearly designed for. The novelty soon wore off.
    The only disability in life is a poor attitude.
  • rolf_frolf_f Posts: 15,959
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    trek_dan wrote:
    Buy a cheap car for commuting and get a future classic like a 205 GTI or Escort RST for fun.

    I say this for 2 reasons;
    1. All modern cars are boring
    2. You'll have an appreciating asset rather than a depreciating one
    1 - There are quite a few interesting ones I reckon. Maybe not ones that the OP can afford though.
    2 - Some have already appreciated. Take your 205 GTI example:
    https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/list/87/205+gti/

    205 Gti (and any classic Ford for that matter) is a bad example. A very obvious (and predictable) choice; everyone wants them. But look at the prices for Peugeot 309 GTi's. Rated as better cars (particularly in the handling department) by the Peugeot crowd they cost a fraction of the money of the 205.

    Those generally all in budget (though a lot rarer than 205s) - and many similar less known cars. You just have to avoid the stuff that everybody else wants because they read about them in an issue of Top Gear magazine in the dentists.
    Faster than a tent.......
  • veronese68veronese68 Posts: 22,318 Lives Here
    pblakeney wrote:
    Mr Goo wrote:
    pblakeney wrote:
    As long as you can afford it, always go with the heart.
    Life is too short.
    Nope!
    Couple of years ago did that and went for an Alfa Giulietta. Lovely car but a more trouble than it was worth.
    Get a Volvo estate.
    I wonder how many people on their deathbed have had the thought, "I'm glad I bought that nice sensible Volvo"? About the same number as have thought "Alfas are reliable". :lol:
    My Alfa was more reliable than the Audi I had in spite of having done over double the mileage. Audi was dull as ditchwater, uncomfortable and not particularly reliable. I hated that car. The fast ones may be fun but the standard ones have nothing to recommend them.
    Reliability is a matter of luck, both cars had Bosch engine management so the same could have happened to either.
    Now got a Ford Smax in turbo petrol form, goes better than it looks and is comfortable but hardly exciting. If you want a fun car don't buy a diesel. If you don't do a lot of miles don't buy a diesel.
    Rolf makes a good point about not buying the obvious cars.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 11,057
    veronese68 wrote:
    pblakeney wrote:
    Mr Goo wrote:
    pblakeney wrote:
    As long as you can afford it, always go with the heart.
    Life is too short.
    Nope!
    Couple of years ago did that and went for an Alfa Giulietta. Lovely car but a more trouble than it was worth.
    Get a Volvo estate.
    I wonder how many people on their deathbed have had the thought, "I'm glad I bought that nice sensible Volvo"? About the same number as have thought "Alfas are reliable". :lol:
    A copy and paste post.
    That's the one happy Alfa owner to match the one happy Volvo driver then. :wink:
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • ProssPross Posts: 22,145
    veronese68 wrote:
    pblakeney wrote:
    Mr Goo wrote:
    pblakeney wrote:
    As long as you can afford it, always go with the heart.
    Life is too short.
    Nope!
    Couple of years ago did that and went for an Alfa Giulietta. Lovely car but a more trouble than it was worth.
    Get a Volvo estate.
    I wonder how many people on their deathbed have had the thought, "I'm glad I bought that nice sensible Volvo"? About the same number as have thought "Alfas are reliable". :lol:
    My Alfa was more reliable than the Audi I had in spite of having done over double the mileage. Audi was dull as ditchwater, uncomfortable and not particularly reliable. I hated that car. The fast ones may be fun but the standard ones have nothing to recommend them.
    Reliability is a matter of luck, both cars had Bosch engine management so the same could have happened to either.
    Now got a Ford Smax in turbo petrol form, goes better than it looks and is comfortable but hardly exciting. If you want a fun car don't buy a diesel. If you don't do a lot of miles don't buy a diesel.
    Rolf makes a good point about not buying the obvious cars.

    Same here, 100k miles in my Giulietta with no issues other than the occasional software update being needed whereas my A4 had 3 or 4 turbo problems in the 3 years I had it. Luckily it was a company car (as was the Alfa). I didn't find the Alfa to be the 'driver's car' owners go on about but then it was a diesel.

    Agree on avoiding diesels for such low mileage (as I said in my first post). If you're getting something at £7k you're probably going to either be getting an older version diesel where the tax man will hammer you or a fairly basic and / or high mileage vehicle. There are some incredibly efficient petrol cars out there these days that haven't been so demonised. I say this as someone who has had a diesel since 1991, only my very first car was petrol but that is likely to change when I next have to buy.
  • drlodgedrlodge Posts: 4,824
    In my case, the car in front might be a Toyota, but the car behind him is a Lexus :-)
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