Tour route 2019

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  • specialgueststar
    specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
    maybe they are waiting to see the startlist before deciding on Ventoux

    Wish they hadn't done Foix to Nimes as a transfer as it would have gone past my yacht
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    SpecialGuestStar wrote:
    maybe they are waiting to see the startlist before deciding on Ventoux

    Wish they hadn't done Foix to Nimes as a transfer as it would have gone past my yacht


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  • ridgerider
    ridgerider Posts: 2,852
    The executive summary against stage 17 suggests they will skirt round the north of The Mountain.
    Half man, Half bike
  • lucan2
    lucan2 Posts: 294
    Any other links to the route? That website doesn't like me not accepting ads.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    So stage 18 has the Izoard and the Galibier?
    Correlation is not causation.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,576
    Above The Cows wrote:
    So stage 18 has the Izoard and the Galibier?

    Yes, and the Vars as an hors d'ouevres.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    andyp wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    So stage 18 has the Izoard and the Galibier?

    Yes, and the Vars as an hors d'ouevres.

    Tasty!

    So they get the harder side of the Izoard (and the faster descent, weeeee) and the easier side of the Galibier. I'm hoping this means they resurface the N94 through Briançon now because that road is terrible, unless they're going up the really straight really steep hill by the police station and cinema.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    Although I've only ever ridden up it that descent into Valloire could be interesting too especially if the steep final 5k or so of the Galibier climb creates splits.
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  • dave milne
    dave milne Posts: 703
    Looking forward to the Iseran
  • poweredbyidris
    poweredbyidris Posts: 848
    Above The Cows wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    So stage 18 has the Izoard and the Galibier?

    Yes, and the Vars as an hors d'ouevres.

    Tasty!

    So they get the harder side of the Izoard (and the faster descent, weeeee) and the easier side of the Galibier. I'm hoping this means they resurface the N94 through Briançon now because that road is terrible, unless they're going up the really straight really steep hill by the police station and cinema.

    Still have nightmares about that steep hill in Briancon - did it at the end of Ventoux to Izoard (#humblebrag) and was so close to walking it.

    I reckon I'll be watching from the slopes of the Izoard next year
  • term1te
    term1te Posts: 1,462
    Back in the Vosges, a much underrated region, and local to me, so I'll be booking the day off for Mulhouse to La Planche des Belles Filles.
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  • gavinbay
    gavinbay Posts: 144
    I've done a preview of Stage 18 - as I live and cycle in Serre Chevalier I know the climbs and route pretty well as it goes past my front door (La Salle Les Alpes)

    That said I'm not a great climber but can still do a quick descent and Galibier to Valloire is one of my favourites, only trouble is I then have to cycle back up the Galibier!

    When you think that the Etape in 2017 was a fair chunk of this stage, minus the Galibier, and the flatish descent from Briancon to Embrun this stage is huge.

    My money will be on Primoz Roglic (that's if he's riding) who won in Serre Chevalier back in 2017 and who seems to excel at finishes involving a big descent after a lot of climbing.

    Last Thursday I cycled up the Galibier filming with a drone and came back to the news of the tour route so was well chuffed.

    https://www.stylealtitude.com/stage-18- ... rance.html
    Cycling Routes in the Hautes Alpes Serre Chevalier Briancon
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    GavinBay wrote:
    I've done a preview of Stage 18 - as I live and cycle in Serre Chevalier I know the climbs and route pretty well as it goes past my front door (La Salle Les Alpes)

    That said I'm not a great climber but can still do a quick descent and Galibier to Valloire is one of my favourites, only trouble is I then have to cycle back up the Galibier!

    When you think that the Etape in 2017 was a fair chunk of this stage, minus the Galibier, and the flatish descent from Briancon to Embrun this stage is huge.

    My money will be on Primoz Roglic (that's if he's riding) who won in Serre Chevalier back in 2017 and who seems to excel at finishes involving a big descent after a lot of climbing.

    Last Thursday I cycled up the Galibier filming with a drone and came back to the news of the tour route so was well chuffed.

    https://www.stylealtitude.com/stage-18- ... rance.html

    Thank for that - although it was a slightly uneasy watch. You looked a bit distracted by Monster/PervCam...
  • philbar72
    philbar72 Posts: 2,229
    the Iseran stage looks like fun, was based in Tignes les brev in 2017, and once you've descended into Tignes the climb back up isn't easy, though by then they'd have broken the back of the climbs and got down the not too technical descent of the Iseran.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    GavinBay wrote:

    Last Thursday I cycled up the Galibier filming with a drone and came back to the news of the tour route so was well chuffed.

    https://www.stylealtitude.com/stage-18- ... rance.html

    As a proud card carrying luddite how do you film yourself with a drone while cycling?
    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]
  • gavinbay
    gavinbay Posts: 144
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    ......As a proud card carrying luddite how do you film yourself with a drone while cycling?

    With tremendous difficulty :D

    More here viewtopic.php?f=40013&t=13100045
    Cycling Routes in the Hautes Alpes Serre Chevalier Briancon
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    GavinBay wrote:
    I've done a preview of Stage 18 - as I live and cycle in Serre Chevalier I know the climbs and route pretty well as it goes past my front door (La Salle Les Alpes)

    That said I'm not a great climber but can still do a quick descent and Galibier to Valloire is one of my favourites, only trouble is I then have to cycle back up the Galibier!

    When you think that the Etape in 2017 was a fair chunk of this stage, minus the Galibier, and the flatish descent from Briancon to Embrun this stage is huge.

    My money will be on Primoz Roglic (that's if he's riding) who won in Serre Chevalier back in 2017 and who seems to excel at finishes involving a big descent after a lot of climbing.

    Last Thursday I cycled up the Galibier filming with a drone and came back to the news of the tour route so was well chuffed.

    https://www.stylealtitude.com/stage-18- ... rance.html

    You lucky, lucky, lucky, human. You live in one of the most beautiful parts of the world (in my opinion).

    I want to know when the Tour is going to tackle the Granon again.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    GavinBay wrote:
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    ......As a proud card carrying luddite how do you film yourself with a drone while cycling?

    With tremendous difficulty :D

    More here viewtopic.php?f=40013&t=13100045


    Oooooo this is making me a bit nostalgic for my regular summer haunt. So wonderfully quiet. Maybe I should try and get out in the autumn some time, when a tunnel is closed. Great footage.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • gavinbay
    gavinbay Posts: 144
    Above The Cows wrote:
    ......I want to know when the Tour is going to tackle the Granon again.......

    I almost fantasise over that thought :)

    The Granon is my local hill and is indeed all out km per vertical gained the toughest climb in France.

    12.2km 1,040 vert for the actual.

    It's also a very very tricky descent, although I'm at 326 out of 4,164 not bad for an old English fart :)

    I've been up the Granon circa 38 times according to my Strava, of which 20 are cyling, the others are ski touring as well as running, as this year was unable to ride the Defi as my back wheel was fecked so I entered the running event :?

    I'd love to see a unique stage in that they cycle to the top and then change over to MTBs for the long descent down into the valley on the other side :D

    There is no reason why they could not use it as a stage finish as there is plenty of room up there with the old barracks and parking area and they've finished on the Izoard (last year) and the Galibier before and had all the logistics and infrastructure down in the valley.

    But the legend is that Hinault does not want to go near it again as it was on the Granon where he was well and truly spanked.
    Cycling Routes in the Hautes Alpes Serre Chevalier Briancon
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    The Giro route was announced today.
    It includes 7 summit finishes and 3 ITTs.
    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/raci ... ute-192184
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    The Giro route was announced today.
    It includes 7 summit finishes and 3 ITTs.
    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/raci ... ute-192184

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    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • meursault
    meursault Posts: 1,433
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    The Giro route was announced today.
    It includes 7 summit finishes and 3 ITTs.
    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/raci ... ute-192184

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    The Giro route was announced today.
    It includes 7 summit finishes and 3 ITTs.
    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/raci ... ute-192184

    so-beautiful.gif

    Already not quite as beautiful as conceived.
    Current state of Stage 20's Passo Manghen road.

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    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    That's OK, it's just the Giro outdoing the gravel finish on the Belles Filles
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • poweredbyidris
    poweredbyidris Posts: 848
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    The Giro route was announced today.
    It includes 7 summit finishes and 3 ITTs.
    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/raci ... ute-192184

    Yay!: Colle del Nivolet

    WTF?: 147km stage where total climbing will be measured in millimetres
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    3ITTs? They really want Tom D back.

    Geraint T should go for that and then be man 2 for the tour.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    Looks a very traditional grand tour, lots of sprinters stages in the first 10 days, plenty for the time triallists and the back end of the race loaded with climbing though apparently overall less than the 2019 Tour. As Matt White says though so much these days depends on what the final kms of stages are like.

    I see Froome says he is undecided about riding it, surely that's being polite and he will be all in for the Tour.
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  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    Landa has tweeted suggesting he's interested.

    With the 3 TTs and likelihood that Froome / Tom D / Pinot and others will focus on the TDF, Movistar could do worse than back Valverde for the Giro. I'd say there's a better chance of him winning the Giro than Quintana winning the tour.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    That's OK, it's just the Giro outdoing the gravel finish on the Belles Filles

    I was on holiday when the tour route came out, so I hadn't picked up on this.
    That's quite some run in that they've come up with. The penultimate climb will either blow the race to tiny bits, or else be ridden up totally tranquillo, with everyone too afraid of the gradient.

    7b36c
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    That's OK, it's just the Giro outdoing the gravel finish on the Belles Filles

    I was on holiday when the tour route came out, so I hadn't picked up on this.
    That's quite some run in that they've come up with. The penultimate climb will either blow the race to tiny bits, or else be ridden up totally tranquillo, with everyone too afraid of the gradient.

    7b36c
    It looks like an opportunity for the old style Sky first MTF blitz
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