JLT Condor to finish at the end of the season

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  • OnTheRopes wrote:

    Bummer. I guess it must be expensive relative to returns especially when theres a gulf between the pro peloton and the domestic teams
  • OnTheRopes wrote:

    Bummer. I guess it must be expensive relative to returns especially when theres a gulf between the pro peloton and the domestic teams
    Domestic teams probably don't get too much exposure and difficult to analyse but I can't see how they can be cost effective to sponsor unless you are actually in the Cycle trade selling cycles or kit. How many people actually know what JLT do for instance?
  • joe2008
    joe2008 Posts: 1,531
    ha, I always thought it was Jonathan Tiernan-Locke :wink:
  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
    OnTheRopes wrote:
    How many people actually know what JLT do for instance?
    They're a pretty massive insurance company - and provide the underwriting for lots of specialist bike insurance. They've got a lot of money and this will be a drop in the ocean, but I think the initial commitment by them was a result of some (possibly one) very passionate cyclists at a pretty senior level in JLT.

    I think its really sad - Rapha Condor/Recycling Condor/Rapha Condor Sharp have been around for a good while and been a real presence domestically and done some good things internationally as well. John Herety a top man, Kristian House a total dude.

    I just don't understand why someone wouldn't want to pick up the team. Good riders, superstar Olympian in Ed Clancy, infrastructure all there. How much would it cost?
  • mroli wrote:
    OnTheRopes wrote:
    How many people actually know what JLT do for instance?
    How much would it cost?
    Around half a million I should think
  • joe2008
    joe2008 Posts: 1,531
    OnTheRopes wrote:
    mroli wrote:
    OnTheRopes wrote:
    How many people actually know what JLT do for instance?
    How much would it cost?
    Around half a million I should think

    they could pitch on Dragon's Den
  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
    OnTheRopes wrote:
    Around half a million I should think
    I'll have a word at work. :D
    That must be pocket change to some companies though - right?
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    mroli wrote:
    OnTheRopes wrote:
    Around half a million I should think
    I'll have a word at work. :D
    That must be pocket change to some companies though - right?
    I met a bloke who worked for the “Private Wealthcare” department of a well known high st bank (3rd highest building in Canary Wharf), who told me one of his clients was a Russian oligarch with £20 billion sat in an account that they were helping advise him with. £20 billion!
    3 things struck me about that: firstly, it’s an obscenity that 1 individual is sat on such wealth (especially as this was just one of his accounts and didn’t take into consideration his other capital/possessions, etc); secondly, imagine the lives he could benefit with such dosh... and thirdly, he can’t be as much of a tit as Tinkov so perhaps he could back a pro bike team?
    But then I can’t understand it when I go to France during the Tour and everyone isn’t watching it all of the time, so perhaps my cycling blinkers exclude me from any rational thoughts around the sport...
  • The day after the JLT announcement cancelling their sponsorship there was another announcement stating JLT had just been bought by Marsh. They are an even bigger Insurance Brokerage firm. I suspect that may have been the reason for cancellation.
  • Pina62 wrote:
    The day after the JLT announcement cancelling their sponsorship there was another announcement stating JLT had just been bought by Marsh. They are an even bigger Insurance Brokerage firm. I suspect that may have been the reason for cancellation.

    As mentioned in the article dish_dash linked to above.

    Well to the forum young padawan, where pedantry and sneeriness abound
  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
    Pina62 wrote:
    The day after the JLT announcement cancelling their sponsorship there was another announcement stating JLT had just been bought by Marsh. They are an even bigger Insurance Brokerage firm. I suspect that may have been the reason for cancellation.
    We'll buy your company for multiple billions of pounds, but only if you ditch that £500k a year sponsorship of a bike team...

    I know some cyclists who work for Marsh as well...

    As OC says - I don't know where their priorities lie! £20bn... I could spend that pretty quickly by redistributing it in cycling... First stop - funding a new classics race in North Cornwall. Send a load of toughmen up and down Millook, Boscastle High St, Crackington and others all day in March. Brilliant....
  • Pina62 wrote:
    The day after the JLT announcement cancelling their sponsorship there was another announcement stating JLT had just been bought by Marsh. They are an even bigger Insurance Brokerage firm. I suspect that may have been the reason for cancellation.

    As mentioned in the article dish_dash linked to above.

    Well to the forum young padawan, where pedantry and sneeriness abound

    ...... and sneering abounds
  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    mroli wrote:
    Pina62 wrote:
    The day after the JLT announcement cancelling their sponsorship there was another announcement stating JLT had just been bought by Marsh. They are an even bigger Insurance Brokerage firm. I suspect that may have been the reason for cancellation.
    We'll buy your company for multiple billions of pounds, but only if you ditch that £500k a year sponsorship of a bike team...

    I know some cyclists who work for Marsh as well...
    .

    MMC are basically a firm of consultants, aka accountants who obsess over spreadsheets and understand the price of everything but the value of nothing. and as per most acquistions its done by ramping up debt with the promise of lots of management speak nonsense and delivering cost savings.

    and just by taking on the company theyve found a way to save half a million quid already, plus they are an American based company, what does a British UCI conti cycling team even mean to them.

    as has been said already JLT were clearly sponsoring out of a passion for the sport, not to promote their business, and most FTSE100 companies employ alot of passionate cyclists all of whom would love to see their company spend their marketing budget on a cycling team, unfortunately it doesnt work like that.