Pinarello Bikes for new riders?

GFrider

Hi All,

I am new rider, started 16 months ago and I have loved this sport.

I am interested to buy a new road bike Pinarello. I understand the F10/F8 are Aero bikes and the differences with a Endurance...But, my questions is:

1) Do you recommend me an Aero-bike for a beginner? if that so,
2) Do you recommend Pinarello for "new riders", specially if I am planning to move to UK

Why i want to buy a pinarello? two reasons :
a) Because i want to jump to the next bike level since it will be the last time that i can afford a bike of that caliber.
b) Quality and aesthetics

Currently I have a 2017 Cannonade Synapse Di2 and my weekly mileage is between 100 to 120 miles

Thanks and have a good day.

imposter2.0

Standard reply: "if you want a new bike - buy one"

GFrider

Hi All,

I am new rider, started 16 months ago and I have loved this sport.

I am interested to buy a new road bike Pinarello. I understand the F10/F8 are Aero bikes and the differences with a Endurance...But, my questions is:

1) Do you recommend me an Aero-bike for a beginner? if that so,
2) Do you recommend Pinarello for "new riders", specially if I am planning to move to UK

Why i want to buy a pinarello? two reasons :
a) Because i want to jump to the next bike level since it will be the last time that i can afford a bike of that caliber.
b) Quality and aesthetics

Currently I have a 2017 Cannonade Synapse Di2 and my weekly mileage is between 100 to 120 miles

Thanks and have a good day.

PS. this post was input too in Beginners section...

SJH76

The new Pinarello Prince is/was the F8. I'm not sure if it is a cheaper carbon version mind. Only going off something I read. I. Sure this is what Pinarello used to do years ago. Re-release flagship bikes under the Prince name.

fenix

1. Aero bikes won't offer any advantages in the real world. The vast majority of wind resistance is the rider. You'd be better off buying a top 2 sizes too small. Buy it if you like the look of it, but don't expect an aero bike to be faster than a non aero bike in the same price range.
2. I think you pay a premium on the Pinarello bikes due to their TdF associations. I don't think you'd be noticeably faster on one than you are on your Cannondale. Taking the bikes for a test ride would be essential.

imposter2.0

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stueys

Fenix wrote:

1. Aero bikes won't offer any advantages in the real world. The vast majority of wind resistance is the rider. You'd be better off buying a top 2 sizes too small. Buy it if you like the look of it, but don't expect an aero bike to be faster than a non aero bike in the same price range.
2. I think you pay a premium on the Pinarello bikes due to their TdF associations. I don't think you'd be noticeably faster on one than you are on your Cannondale. Taking the bikes for a test ride would be essential.

I'd say an aero bike will give you some advantage in the real world, but agree that the advantage is likely to be so small that it's probably not going to be noticeable. RIder position, wheels, etc, etc, probably all play a bigger role than an aero frame.

Having said that the F10 gets great reviews as both a semi- aero bike and a great handling one, you pay a very, very hefty premium for it though. But it's all relative, if you've got the cash to burn then you probably won't be disappointed. Only thing I would add is that a new Prince has just been released that looks to have most of the F10 goodness incorporated within it. Secondly it might be worth seeing when the F10 replacement is on the horizon, I can't recall when it was released but it feels more than a couple of years old now.

Matthewfalle

pinarello is fine for new riders

aero bike is fine for new riders.

CitizenLee

No, you need to earn the right to ride a high end bike



*runs away laughing*

joey54321

Buy if you want but a much better investment in terms of speed will likely be new wheels. The synapse is a quality bike and DI2 is also top notch. Not sure what you'd really 'gain' in terms of buying a Pinarello (or any other aero bike). Especially only riding 100 odd miles a week, its likely that you aren't racing where tiny fractions might matter.

jgsi

Colnago C64, if it is going to be your last ever bike purchase

apreading

If you are moving to the UK then brace yourself for really bad roads. I imagine aero bikes will also be very stiff and not the most comfortable on our roads. If you want to ride long hours then I would look more for comfort unless you really need the aero benefits.

shirley_basso

apreading wrote:

If you are moving to the UK then brace yourself for really bad roads. I imagine aero bikes will also be very stiff and not the most comfortable on our roads. If you want to ride long hours then I would look more for comfort unless you really need the aero benefits.

I'm sorry but I think this is nonsense. Yes there are bad roads in parts but no worse than anywhere else.

I'd love an F10 but you'd struggle to talk me out of a C64 as mentioned above.

Make sure you have clearance for the modern, wider rims and you're fine for less than perfect road surfaces.

All you need to worry about is whether to go for discs or not or electronic gearing or not.

Matthewfalle

apreading wrote:

If you are moving to the UK then brace yourself for really bad roads. I imagine aero bikes will also be very stiff and not the most comfortable on our roads. If you want to ride long hours then I would look more for comfort unless you really need the aero benefits.

sorry but this is incorrect.

mf has never had a problem with aero bikes on the road and neither has mf or any of their friends.

mf thinks that if you don't ride aero bikes on the road one should refrain from posting.

turbotommy

The synapse has quite a relaxed geometry. The dogma has an aggressive geometry and lots of people have noted how unforgiving it is. Beyond liking the way the bike looks, which is important. It’ll be much more important to get a proper test ride on one as well as looking properly at how the bike varies from your current bike.

mr_mojo

I don't agree with an aero bike been uncomfortable. I have a Colnago C60 and Cipollini NK1K both bikes are very different in how they ride but I certainly don't find the Cipollini any more uncomfortable.

SJH76

Mr_Mojo wrote:

I don't agree with an aero bike been uncomfortable. I have a Colnago C60 and Cipollini NK1K both bikes are very different in how they ride but I certainly don't find the Cipollini any more uncomfortable.

I agree. My Madone is very comfortable. Isospeed decoupler smooths out many of the bumps in the road.

pamplemoose

Don't listen to anyone on here and buy whichever bike you like best. That's the bike you'll look at, sat in the garage and think "bugger me, I want to get out and go for a ride". This is how I ended up with my Oltre XR3 Disc and every time I look at it I want to go for a ride. I'm below average in terms of power and in no way do I 'deserve' or 'need' a £4k bike. But screw it. If you have the cash, get whatever you want. Haters be damned.

Matthewfalle

pamplemoose wrote:

Don't listen to anyone on here and buy whichever bike you like best. That's the bike you'll look at, sat in the garage and think "bugger me, I want to get out and go for a ride". This is how I ended up with my Oltre XR3 Disc and every time I look at it I want to go for a ride. I'm below average in terms of power and in no way do I 'deserve' or 'need' a £4k bike. But screw it. If you have the cash, get whatever you want. Haters be damned.

errr - isn't that really what everyone is saying?

#careershout

rando

pamplemoose wrote:

Don't listen to anyone on here and buy whichever bike you like best. That's the bike you'll look at, sat in the garage and think "bugger me, I want to get out and go for a ride". This is how I ended up with my Oltre XR3 Disc and every time I look at it I want to go for a ride. I'm below average in terms of power and in no way do I 'deserve' or 'need' a £4k bike. But screw it. If you have the cash, get whatever you want. Haters be damned.

Which I had this thinking ! Would love the new Trek Madone not for it's aero capabilities but just from it's clean and tidy looks and the ISO speed decoupler for some comfort.(already have 2 Trek Domanes so know it is no gimmick). I have the funds in place for the new Madone Disc but just holding back from ordering one on the grounds of looking like 'all the gear - no idea' ! I am no speed machine and not sure I could handle all the sarky comments.

APIII

rando wrote:

pamplemoose wrote:

Don't listen to anyone on here and buy whichever bike you like best. That's the bike you'll look at, sat in the garage and think "bugger me, I want to get out and go for a ride". This is how I ended up with my Oltre XR3 Disc and every time I look at it I want to go for a ride. I'm below average in terms of power and in no way do I 'deserve' or 'need' a £4k bike. But screw it. If you have the cash, get whatever you want. Haters be damned.

Which I had this thinking ! Would love the new Trek Madone not for it's aero capabilities but just from it's clean and tidy looks and the ISO speed decoupler for some comfort.(already have 2 Trek Domanes so know it is no gimmick). I have the funds in place for the new Madone Disc but just holding back from ordering one on the grounds of looking like 'all the gear - no idea' ! I am no speed machine and not sure I could handle all the sarky comments.

Just order it. Those sarky comments are just thinly veiled jealousy.

First.Aspect

Shirley Basso wrote:

I'm sorry but I think this is nonsense. Yes there are bad roads in parts but no worse than anywhere else.

Have you travelled much?

shirley_basso

First Aspect wrote:

Shirley Basso wrote:

I'm sorry but I think this is nonsense. Yes there are bad roads in parts but no worse than anywhere else.

Have you travelled much?

Yes

First.Aspect

Shirley Basso wrote:

First Aspect wrote:

Shirley Basso wrote:

I'm sorry but I think this is nonsense. Yes there are bad roads in parts but no worse than anywhere else.

Have you travelled much?

Yes

But not to North America, Scandinavia or most of Western Europe, I guess.

shirley_basso

Yes to the latter 2.

It's a road bike. For roads. Stick to the tarmacced parts or buy a gravel bike.

Of course there are some horrendous parts in every country but it's hardly like all the tarmac in the world is suddenly like the cobbles of flandrian fields.

thegreatdivide

And the OP/trollterego was never seen again - yet the usual suspects start a smash off.

Duped again.

Bet this still makes four pages.

Matthewfalle

thegreatdivide wrote:

And the OP/trollterego was never seen again - yet the usual suspects start a smash off.

Duped again.

Bet this still makes four pages.

#activediscussion

GOOD

thegreatdivide

Matthewfalle wrote:

thegreatdivide wrote:

And the OP/trollterego was never seen again - yet the usual suspects start a smash off.

Duped again.

Bet this still makes four pages.

#activediscussion

GOOD

Don't kid yourself.