A big thanks for all the gel wrappers.

tangled_metal

The point is not if it's visible or not it's the principle of throwing stuff away when you've finished with it. Nobody knows about it but you do. I can't underrated why that doesn't bother you. The throwing away of rubbish rather than putting it in a bin.

Mind you rubbish has become more of a problem to me because of a puppy in the family who will try to eat anything. You cannot watch it all the time when out so it is often found with stuff half eaten. Other times we only find out it's eaten something it shouldn't have when it's a bit poorly. Fortunately a very healthy terrier breed that is sick a bit then back to normal or off food then the suits and back to b normal. Still it does show discomfort. I bet that's the same with wild animals too. And I have got it to release banana skin before that I hadn't seen. Way of things with a puppy though. It'll learn one day.

But even without the puppy I had the issue with just throwing rubbish off any kind. A lot of my friends do too. In one group you soon learn not to throw apple cores and banana skins away. A few of them can be quite forceful about you going to pick it up.

I guess we're all different. I'll never understand the view personally.

CitizenLee

I just burn my banana skins on the disposable BBQ, and then leave that in a bush or on a hill top instead. Banana skin decomposition problem solved

/s

cougie

Craigus89 wrote:

90% of my cycling is on quiet B-roads or lanes in rural areas, and I always chuck my banana skins out of sight in the hedge.

I'm doing far more harm on my 7 mile drive to work in the morning than I'll ever do chucking banana skins in hedges.

Brilliant. So just because you do something that is worse - you could get away with anything less ? It's your litter. Take it with you. Simple rule.

chris_bass

You have to be careful with banana skins, it can be a slippery slope

craigus89

cougie wrote:

Craigus89 wrote:

90% of my cycling is on quiet B-roads or lanes in rural areas, and I always chuck my banana skins out of sight in the hedge.

I'm doing far more harm on my 7 mile drive to work in the morning than I'll ever do chucking banana skins in hedges.

Brilliant. So just because you do something that is worse - you could get away with anything less ? It's your litter. Take it with you. Simple rule.

Fair point, but I genuinely do not see the harm it causes. It decomposes and leaves no trace.

For the record I hate people that litter, I have in the past told kids to pick up their sweet wrappers, but something small and organic that decomposes quickly and is discarded somewhere discreetly is not litter in my mind.

I'll go get my stake and firelighters...

sloppyschleckonds

There are now 1,000 banana skins strewn across Ben Nevis. Walkers, it seems, don't realise that it takes ages for a banana skin to degrade: two years, in fact.

bikes`n`guns

I dropped a gel wrapper in Gullane the other day whilst trying to get it into my jersey pocket. Traffic was heavy and I didn`t see where it went.
I left it and felt bad about the stupid thing all the way home.
It`s something I never do and see no need for it. Accidents obviously happen though.

Matthewfalle

MF sticks gel wrappers up his short leg and tends to forget that they are there after after about 10 seconds of crushing everyone else around him with the sheer power of his legs.

We are afraid to say that they sin and lob banana skins in hedges but we shall instruct them to stop doing this.

It does make us angry though when we see clubbies lobbing gel wrappers everywhere - just tuck them away ffs ......

mfin

The problem of gel wrappers must happen a hell of a lot more around surrey and london, as that is where the highest density of w**ker cyclists are. When at last the law comes in that w**ker cyclists (people who started cycling after being inspired by Wiggins, Chavendish the 'has been sprinter' and Sky) aren't allowed to ride on any day with a y in it, a lot of the problem will be solved.

Joking aside, the banana skin thing is ridiculous, forget it, debating it won't cause any change and it's hardly like there will be a national awareness week for it or tv spots. To those that are concerned, if you're that bothered, put them in the recycling.

gweeds

You took them out in your pockets. Take them home in your pockets.

Not doing so makes you a massive bell-end.

Orkneylad

OK, banana skins do degrade, but this is not really an excuse to ditch them on curbs/hedgerows etc....they look very manky for ages & contribute to spoiling the landscape for everyone else. Can't surely be too much too kept hold until you pass a bin, but for those faking the PRO aesthetic it seems de rigueur to fling everything out.

Muppets!

chrisaonabike

Another vote here for people chucking wrappers, banana skins, or anything at all simply being w4nkers.

Would you chuck it in your neighbour's garden? No - it's rude and inconsiderate. So don't do it out in the country either.

Pro tip: being rude and inconsiderate makes you a w4nker. Yes, it really does.

shirley_basso

What does Chavendish mean?

pblakeney

ChrisAOnABike wrote:

Another vote here for people chucking wrappers, banana skins, or anything at all simply being w4nkers.

Would you chuck it in your neighbour's garden? No - it's rude and inconsiderate. So don't do it out in the country either.

I would for the previous neighbours. Obnoxious lot.
New ones are really nice though, so point taken.

Matthewfalle

ChrisAOnABike wrote:

Another vote here for people chucking wrappers, banana skins, or anything at all simply being w4nkers.

Would you chuck it in your neighbour's garden? No - it's rude and inconsiderate. So don't do it out in the country either.

Pro tip: being rude and inconsiderate makes you a w4nker. Yes, it really does.

MF would make sure that he had hit it with a hammer and set fire to it before lobbing it in the next door neighbour's garden.

tangled_metal

Matthewfalle wrote:

ChrisAOnABike wrote:

Another vote here for people chucking wrappers, banana skins, or anything at all simply being w4nkers.

Would you chuck it in your neighbour's garden? No - it's rude and inconsiderate. So don't do it out in the country either.

Pro tip: being rude and inconsiderate makes you a w4nker. Yes, it really does.

MF would make sure that he had hit it with a hammer and set fire to it before lobbing it in the next door neighbour's garden.

Are you sure all the MFs agree with that? I heard there's a tree hugger MF that's real down man on all that pollution thing and the violence! Not his bag.

orraloon

Apple cores? Fast decomposition, less cellulose than the notorious B.A.Nana, UK native genus, increased nutrient availability for microorganisms, environmental benefits... I chuck mine in the hedge. So there.

haydenm

Again, banana skins out of sight in non sensitive areas are just not an issue, the pollution is visual, very very very few of our habitats are actually natural. This doesn't change the fact you will be fined if you are caught so don't do it. Things are probably a little different here in Scotland in terms of population density though...

For the record, I am a tree hugger, it's my job. I also don't eat gels or bananas on the bike because there is literally nothing worse than having sticky hands/bars

Matthewfalle

Tangled Metal wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

ChrisAOnABike wrote:

Another vote here for people chucking wrappers, banana skins, or anything at all simply being w4nkers.

Would you chuck it in your neighbour's garden? No - it's rude and inconsiderate. So don't do it out in the country either.

Pro tip: being rude and inconsiderate makes you a w4nker. Yes, it really does.

MF would make sure that he had hit it with a hammer and set fire to it before lobbing it in the next door neighbour's garden.

Are you sure all the MFs agree with that? I heard there's a tree hugger MF that's real down man on all that pollution thing and the violence! Not his bag.

we'll ask them and find out.

overall though, all the MFs are pretty environmentally friendly - recycle everything they can, nice bit of upcycling, lights off, stringent water use - all that good stuff.

not tree hugging crusty but better than average golfer/clubbie lobbibg gel wrappers everywhere.

ok, they aren't perfect but they do try.

imposter2.0

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

There are now 1,000 banana skins strewn across Ben Nevis. Walkers, it seems, don't realise that it takes ages for a banana skin to degrade: two years, in fact.

4-6 weeks is more usual, depending on temperature and environment. The environment bit is important, as they are still digging up 2,000 year old bodies of cavemen in the alps. Things take a while longer to biodegrade at altitude..

svetty

If a tree falls in a deserted forest does it make any noise?

cougie

Imposter wrote:

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

There are now 1,000 banana skins strewn across Ben Nevis. Walkers, it seems, don't realise that it takes ages for a banana skin to degrade: two years, in fact.

4-6 weeks is more usual, depending on temperature and environment. The environment bit is important, as they are still digging up 2,000 year old bodies of cavemen in the alps. Things take a while longer to biodegrade at altitude..

Mr Ss was specifically talking about Ben Nevis...

imposter2.0

cougie wrote:

Imposter wrote:

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

There are now 1,000 banana skins strewn across Ben Nevis. Walkers, it seems, don't realise that it takes ages for a banana skin to degrade: two years, in fact.

4-6 weeks is more usual, depending on temperature and environment. The environment bit is important, as they are still digging up 2,000 year old bodies of cavemen in the alps. Things take a while longer to biodegrade at altitude..

Mr Ss was specifically talking about Ben Nevis...

Yes, I read his post before replying. Just reiterating that two years is not the norm for banana skins elsewhere.

Livewire

My riding buddy has no respect for the road, he regularly drops his empty food/gel wrappers on the floor. I usually pick them up out of embarrassment.

Nothing I can say will make him change his ways.

orraloon

Livewire wrote:

Nothing I can say will make him change his ways.

How about a short sharp application of the learning cudgel?

Matthewfalle

Or just say that you’re not going to ride with him until he stops doing it and when he heads off without you have intercourse with his other half.

That’ll learn him.

mfin

Livewire wrote:

My riding buddy has no respect for the road, he regularly drops his empty food/gel wrappers on the floor. I usually pick them up out of embarrassment.

Nothing I can say will make him change his ways.

Why are you riding with him? You obviously think he's a t1t, the reason itself isn't important though. For example, I wouldn't ride with anyone who's eyes are too close together, it would get on my nerves and I told my table lamp that I wouldn't kill again.

awavey

Craigus89 wrote:

cougie wrote:

Craigus89 wrote:

90% of my cycling is on quiet B-roads or lanes in rural areas, and I always chuck my banana skins out of sight in the hedge.

I'm doing far more harm on my 7 mile drive to work in the morning than I'll ever do chucking banana skins in hedges.

Brilliant. So just because you do something that is worse - you could get away with anything less ? It's your litter. Take it with you. Simple rule.

Fair point, but I genuinely do not see the harm it causes. It decomposes and leaves no trace.

For the record I hate people that litter, I have in the past told kids to pick up their sweet wrappers, but something small and organic that decomposes quickly and is discarded somewhere discreetly is not litter in my mind.

I'll go get my stake and firelighters...

everything decomposes in time, even the worst kind of radioactive nuclear waste, the point is the time span that it takes and banana skins take ages to decompose properly, you chuck one away in a hedge and it will be there for at least a year or more, just because its organic doesnt mean its any better than a plastic wrapper.

apple cores fair enough youll probably find badgers/mice/rats or other omnivores in the wild chow down on them long before they decompose by themselves, but they wont eat banana skins.

so you carry them along to the next bin you find, end of debate.

mrpbennett

I always put my gel wrappers rolled up in my back pockets after use. I completed ride 100 yesterday and it was a shame to see gel wrappers and cliff bar wrappers littering the streets

Livewire

mfin wrote:

Livewire wrote:

My riding buddy has no respect for the road, he regularly drops his empty food/gel wrappers on the floor. I usually pick them up out of embarrassment.

Nothing I can say will make him change his ways.

Why are you riding with him? You obviously think he's a t1t, the reason itself isn't important though. For example, I wouldn't ride with anyone who's eyes are too close together, it would get on my nerves and I told my table lamp that I wouldn't kill again.

Well excuse me whilst I get my violin out but he is the only person who will come riding with me :oops: (billy no mates)

I am debating tagging along with a passing chain gang the next time I go out with him, he won't keep up so I won't have to listen to him moaning asking me to slow down.