Rebuild or new bike?

clubsport

I have a 2011 Caad 10 105 mostly used as a second bike, unfortunately a broken derailleur hanger at the weekend caused damage in the form of a crease in the drive side seat stay.

Having spoken to a couple of bike shops, I was advised this is unlikely to be an economical repair.

Option 1; Replacement Caad 12 frame from Cannondale at £550.

Option 2; Wait a couple of months and buy a new bike in the sales?

I am disappointed as I really liked the bike and had no reason to change, if I build up the bike on a new frame I still have older components, even though they worked fine (before the weekend).

If I do buy a new bike, I have no real idea what to buy. I am slightly cautious of ali frames now after this.
This is subjective, but I feel steel is too heavy, titanium too expensive and ali is potentially fragile.
Cheap carbon?

If I do build up a bike, it will probably be a cheaper frame to suit my older parts.

Is this a waste of time?

I would appreciate any thoughts.

cycleclinic

buy what suits your needs. if you like the CAAD12 get another. remember hangers don't break themselves. whatever went wrong is a maintenance problem so keep on top of that as this happens to all bike for a similar set of reason - poor maintenance or maintenance badly done.

letap73

The CAAD 12 frame for £550 is a good deal - although you may want to update your componentry.
Aluminium frames are not weak - ref the number of people who race quite happily with CAAD 12 frames.
You can of course buy a new bike with updated componentry - 11 speed 105 instead of the 10 speed you had.
You can also sell off the bits of your bike which are not broken.
To give you an idea of what you can get for your money these days:
https://www.paulscycles.co.uk/m7b0s6p74 ... C-105-2017

clubsport

I appreciate the replies, I am not sure about another Caad or even aluminium bike after my experience.
I tried to frame (no pun intended) my original question to see if the consensus was a waste of time to rebuild or an excuse to buy a new bike.

With respect to the hanger failure, I didn't want to pad out the original post too much.
However, having not used the bike for 6 weeks I spent 30-40 mins the day before cleaning the bike, cleaning and lubing each chain link, tyres inspected, inflated and checking it over. The chain wear tool suggested the wear was between the two markers, so I was aware I needed to keep an eye on the chain or replace if I was going to use the bike more regularly.

Prior to the incident I was impressed as ever as to how well the bike was riding and how good the 105 slipped through the cogs. At the point of failure I was not changing gear. After the event, with the chain wrapped around the cog, I noticed the KMC chain link was split, I assume this was chewed by the cogs, forensically I couldn't really go much further.

With respect to maintenance I was happy enough with the upkeep on my bike other wise I would not have gone out for a ride.
Now we have cleared that up, my focus is getting another frame or bike to ride.

Right now I am thinking the fate of my next bike may be sealed by what is available in the forthcoming end of season sales?

Cheers.

arlowood

Unless you're desperate to get back on the road my advice would be to wait a few weeks.

The Tour de France usually marks the time when many manufacturers launch their 2019 models. This inevitably leads to some good discounting as retailers try to offload stocks of 2018 models.

You'll be able to pick up a new bike at a good price if you're not too worried about it being an "old" model

clubsport

That's how I bought my Caad in the sales, I wasn't concerned with colour just size and availability.
Another dilemma is do I go for discs or rim brake on a bike to be used in the winter.


Yet another question, there is a slight crease in the rear seat stay of the frame, let's be clear I would not feel confident in descending a steep country lane at speed, so the frame will not be used on the road.

Is there any value in the Caad frame to sell, The rest of the frame is fine and could possibly be used on a turbo or even as wall art!
The carbon forks are fine, I wondered if the frame has any value?

fenix

Old frames are abundant. I'd not pay for one with a crease in it...

You could prob break it all down and sell it separately ?

Or you can pick up a CF frame for a couple of hundred quid to see what you think. They're not fragile - I've had three CF frames - sold one after a good few years and the other two are still with me and have flown quite a bit with them too.

Any frame can break - but they're not fragile.

keef66

Your experience is just down to bad luck, don't let it put you off alu frames. Had it been a CF frame it could still have cracked the seatstay (although a CF frame might still be repairable)

I'd buy one of these:

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FRPXRT58A ... d-frameset

Stick the old parts on that to get you back on the road now. Then you can take your time and pick up a 2018 carbon best bike with a current groupset etc in the sales. Stick some mudguards on the PX and demote it to winter duties. It has clearance / mounts for proper guards.

wotnoshoeseh

keef66 wrote:

Your experience is just down to bad luck, don't let it put you off alu frames. Had it been a CF frame it could still have cracked the seatstay (although a CF frame might still be repairable)

I'd buy one of these:

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FRPXRT58A ... d-frameset

Stick the old parts on that to get you back on the road now. Then you can take your time and pick up a 2018 carbon best bike with a current groupset etc in the sales. Stick some mudguards on the PX and demote it to winter duties. It has clearance / mounts for proper guards.

Good shout - that's one seriously cheap frameset. You'll probably need a new BB - I reckon the CAAD was probably a press fit, but other than that, headset, BB guide, a set of cables (maybe) and some new bar tape, you should be good to go.

That bike could become the winter hack, and then you could purchase a new best bike for the summer months/good weather when the sales start.

kingdav

This crease in the seat stay, is it really a structural issue? I'm struggling to picture what it means.
Has anyone who doesn't have a vested interest in selling you a new frame or fear of litigation should they recommend riding on it made an objective assessment?

I just ask because there does seem often a reluctance to make do and mend these days, whilst I appreciate that a steep descent is not a place you want to your bluff to unravel, there will be a balance of probabilities somewhere. For what it's worth I ride a CF frameset that was "written off" by a bike shop following a collision with a car. I had it professionally repaired and have ridden many miles on it since. I also have a couple of aluminium bikes with the odd ding on them.

lucianovil

Hello clubsport

Do you still have your dented caad 10 frame?

I'm building a caad for indoor training, as it has the same geometry as my other frame.

Wondering if you wanna sell it, i think it Will be ok for swift only.

Regards

lucianovil

clubsport wrote:

I have a 2011 Caad 10 105 mostly used as a second bike, unfortunately a broken derailleur hanger at the weekend caused damage in the form of a crease in the drive side seat stay.

Having spoken to a couple of bike shops, I was advised this is unlikely to be an economical repair.

Option 1; Replacement Caad 12 frame from Cannondale at £550.

Option 2; Wait a couple of months and buy a new bike in the sales?

I am disappointed as I really liked the bike and had no reason to change, if I build up the bike on a new frame I still have older components, even though they worked fine (before the weekend).

If I do buy a new bike, I have no real idea what to buy. I am slightly cautious of ali frames now after this.
This is subjective, but I feel steel is too heavy, titanium too expensive and ali is potentially fragile.
Cheap carbon?

If I do build up a bike, it will probably be a cheaper frame to suit my older parts.

Is this a waste of time?

I would appreciate any thoughts.

Forgot to ask your frame number

Thank you

clubsport

Hi lucianovil,

I no longer have the bike.
Shortly after this posting, I listed the bike on ebay with an honest description and sold it very quickly at a price I was happy with.