Toughest tire casing

Rowan404
Rowan404 Posts: 104
edited July 2018 in MTB buying advice
I have a pair of high roller 2 2.4s in exo casing on my gt sanction. They are good in terms of grip but I keep getting rim bash after rim bash on the front and rear. So my question is, what is the toughest tire casing that will not be too stiff, provide good puncture resistant and not be too heavy either?

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  • JGTR
    JGTR Posts: 1,404
    If you are dinging the rim you need more pressure or maybe try an insert.
  • swod1
    swod1 Posts: 1,639
    too low pressure in your tyres if you are putting dents in to the rims.

    I have minion exo tyres on my bike and no such issues i'm running about 30psi in each as dont like them any lower as it feels sometimes like the tyre is going to come off the rim. i am about 15st though.
  • mattyfez
    mattyfez Posts: 638
    Depends on a few factors
    Pressure
    Your weight
    Whether you hit stuff too hard /technique /terrain

    I'm 16 stone and run about 27psi on ron/ralph 26ers which are comparatively very fragile tyres, don't have any issues, I ride like a sack of potatoes at times but then I also don't hammer down rocky steps and the like. That's too scarey for me.

    What pressure are you running? A topeak d2 digital pressure guage is a good investment as you'll be able to tune the pressure according to your weight and riding style, I found that around 25psi I get rim hits /pinch flats, but increasing it to about 27, maybe 30 it doesn't happen. Much over 30 and the ride is too hard for me, I've a hard tail, and the back wheel bucks me up the arse a bit too much over 30 so you just need to find that sweet spot that works for you.
  • Rowan404
    Rowan404 Posts: 104
    mattyfez wrote:
    Depends on a few factors
    Pressure
    Your weight
    Whether you hit stuff too hard /technique /terrain

    I'm 16 stone and run about 27psi on ron/ralph 26ers which are comparatively very fragile tyres, don't have any issues, I ride like a sack of potatoes at times but then I also don't hammer down rocky steps and the like. That's too scarey for me.

    What pressure are you running? A topeak d2 digital pressure guage is a good investment as you'll be able to tune the pressure according to your weight and riding style, I found that around 25psi I get rim hits /pinch flats, but increasing it to about 27, maybe 30 it doesn't happen. Much over 30 and the ride is too hard for me, I've a hard tail, and the back wheel bucks me up the ars* a bit too much over 30 so you just need to find that sweet spot that works for you.

    I'm running pretty normal pressures, I think I even went up to like 30 front and 32 rear yesterday. I am pretty light at like 150lbs. I ride pretty aggressively down roots, drops etc and I don't really want to have to slow down my riding or run uncomfortable tire pressures to stop getting these. So far I've only gotten one small in the rear from these but I've hit it a lot more than that.
  • Rowan404
    Rowan404 Posts: 104
    Would something like double down or specialized grid help with this issue?
  • 02gf74
    02gf74 Posts: 1,171
    I don't think tougher casing will help, it's all about tyre pressure, that is what keeps the rims away from the ground.
  • Rowan404
    Rowan404 Posts: 104
    02GF74 wrote:
    I don't think tougher casing will help, it's all about tyre pressure, that is what keeps the rims away from the ground.
    Yes but wouldn't a more supportive and thicker casing stop the tire from pressing inwards as much?
  • steve_sordy
    steve_sordy Posts: 2,453
    Rowan404 wrote:
    02GF74 wrote:
    I don't think tougher casing will help, it's all about tyre pressure, that is what keeps the rims away from the ground.
    Yes but wouldn't a more supportive and thicker casing stop the tire from pressing inwards as much?

    Yes, there is absolutely no doubt that a heavier tyre will provide more support.

    When I first went tubeless, my mates assumed I was doing it to save weight. I wasn't. I went from a 540g tyre plus a 180g tube to a 740g tyre with 60g of sealant inside. What I wanted was lower pressure to give me more grip and reduced rolling resistance over rough stuff, but with no more flats, no more trail-side 4rseache in the rain. And that is what I got! :)

    But other posters are correct, tyre pressure is a key component. Whatever tyre set up you ride, you need to have the correct tyre pressure that gives you the key features you are looking for. That could be reduced rolling resistance, maximum grip, reduced flats or dings and so forth.

    You need to send some time experimenting.