Sprinting vs spinning up short steep hills
louman999
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Which way is quickest to get up very short and steep climbs? Obviously you would think sprinting but I can never choose the right gear for the whole climb. If you can get produce enough power when seated is there much difference between the two ways?
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me and the MFs always get out of the saddle, knock it down a cog or two and smash it. just get it done and go back to looking as good as we do.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
High or low cadence when out of the saddle?Matthewfalle wrote:me and the MFs always get out of the saddle, knock it down a cog or two and smash it. just get it done and go back to looking as good as we do.0 -
high-ish.
like you're smashing it out. not spinning but smashing.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
For me, out of the saddle in a gear I can spin at ~65-70rpm, will give me better power output. But I can only do that for so long, rough ballpark ~90secs max. For longer climbs, like a cat4 hill, I will need to mix it up with an easier gear that I can spin at ~70-80rpm while seated.
Once the gradient goes higher than ~7%, power to weight ratio becomes the big factor for times up an incline.================
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Hills to come, spin.
Final hill, smash sprint.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Whichever one generates highest average power for length of the climb.0
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Whichever you are comfortable with.0
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Sprinting on the drops will usually get you somewhere quicker than holding on to the tops of the barsI'm sorry you don't believe in miracles0
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Depends how short and steep. Staying in the saddle is usually most efficient.0
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I find myself making up a lot of positions in a race spinning really fast in the saddle. If it's the last lap I'll probably stay in the big ring and jump of saddle though.0
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If you time your run up well, and carry as much momentum as possible into the short, sharp climbs, sprinting is the best way to deal with them, you don’t have to waste valuable 10ths changing back up as much / at all after the climb either. Marginal gains people, marginal gains.0
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How do you sprint at low revs.Milemuncher1 wrote:If you time your run up well, and carry as much momentum as possible into the short, sharp climbs, sprinting is the best way to deal with them, you don’t have to waste valuable 10ths changing back up as much / at all after the climb either. Marginal gains people, marginal gains.0 -
Milemuncher1 wrote:If you time your run up well, and carry as much momentum as possible into the short, sharp climbs, sprinting is the best way to deal with them,
says the guy who rides everywhere at 10mph...0 -
Milemuncher1 wrote:If you time your run up well, and carry as much momentum as possible into the short, sharp climbs, sprinting is the best way to deal with them, you don’t have to waste valuable 10ths changing back up as much / at all after the climb either. Marginal gains people, marginal gains.
This is my mate's tactic for hills with a downhill before it. He gets a huge gap and then dies on his ass every time. It's not a great tactic.0 -
Definitely try and carry momentum into the hill and then sprint up it out of the saddle and hope you don't run out of legs before the top.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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Milemuncher1 wrote:If you time your run up well, and carry as much momentum as possible into the short, sharp climbs, sprinting is the best way to deal with them, you don’t have to waste valuable 10ths changing back up as much / at all after the climb either. Marginal gains people, marginal gains.
Marginal gains ? Like a handbag strapped across your handlebars ?0 -
Depends on you. Try the same hill both ways. I'm a bit of a lump, but I'm quickest when my leg speed is high, and I often overtake on hills twiddling a little gear with a cadence >100. I also find my legs aren't as cooked by the time I get to the top, and I can shift across to the big ring again.
I suppose I look like a demented fat hamster, rather than cool and sleek like the MFs and their handler MF, but it works for me. 0 -
depends on the climb surely. if its a whitedown, then you aren't going to go in the drops and smash it are you... if its a 30 second berg then you can...
High cadence and a manageable gear you can torque against gets pretty much the fastest results, usually. that and a 37mph tailwind.0 -
cougie wrote:Depends how short and steep. Staying in the saddle is usually most efficient.
He wants the quickest, not most efficientI'm sorry you don't believe in miracles0 -
Depends if I am fresh or k-nackered.
End of day it's spinning but otherwise I get out of the saddle and go for it. I can cycle out of the saddle a long time if I want to and don't find it anaerobic. I'm the guy who pulls up on the pedal stroke as well as down :oops: Apparently really bad but I like to do it anyway.0 -
cougie wrote:Milemuncher1 wrote:If you time your run up well, and carry as much momentum as possible into the short, sharp climbs, sprinting is the best way to deal with them, you don’t have to waste valuable 10ths changing back up as much / at all after the climb either. Marginal gains people, marginal gains.
This is my mate's tactic for hills with a downhill before it. He gets a huge gap and then dies on his ass every time. It's not a great tactic.
It only fails to work if you have no clue what you’re doing.0
