Foot pain in one of the road shoes

mtbrider123

Hi Guys,

So I have Mavic Comete ultimate road shoes and I’m experiencing pain in my RIGHT pinky toe, on the joint. I only feel it when the toe touches the shoe. The inside of the shoe is quite hard due to the full carbon shell. However, my LEFT pinky toe is not experiencing any pain, just the right one. I’ve worn these shoes for a month without any problem and this pain just started out of nowhere. Does anyone have any idea of what might be causing this and how to resolve this problem?

This is the link to a photo to show where exactly the pain is. https://ibb.co/c185Ho

milemuncher1

Mtbrider123 wrote:

Hi Guys,

So I have Mavic Comete ultimate road shoes and I’m experiencing pain in my RIGHT pinky toe, on the joint. I only feel it when the toe touches the shoe. The inside of the shoe is quite hard due to the full carbon shell. However, my LEFT pinky toe is not experiencing any pain, just the right one. I’ve worn these shoes for a month without any problem and this pain just started out of nowhere. Does anyone have any idea of what might be causing this and how to resolve this problem?

This is the link to a photo to show where exactly the pain is. https://ibb.co/c185Ho

That’s a pretty common problem, with any shoe that is quite rigid. You will tend to either naturally pronate ( roll your foot inwards) or supinate ( roll your foot outwards ) if you’re right foot dominant ( most people are ) the tendency will be to Supinate the right foot. In a stiff shoe, this will cause pressure to bear on the pinky joint. Try and actively roll the foot inwards, when it happens, for a few miles, and the pressure should ease up a bit. Also, if you’re using cleats ( I’m presuming you are) every now and again, actively lift your toes upwards in the shoe, as you’ll ( unconsciously) be bunching your toes, during hard pedalling. You can also help it by pulling up more than pushing down, to turn the cranks, for a while, if your feet get a bit achey. Getting a proper bike fitting done ( cleat position included ) may also help.

mtbrider123

Milemuncher1 wrote:

Mtbrider123 wrote:

Hi Guys,

So I have Mavic Comete ultimate road shoes and I’m experiencing pain in my RIGHT pinky toe, on the joint. I only feel it when the toe touches the shoe. The inside of the shoe is quite hard due to the full carbon shell. However, my LEFT pinky toe is not experiencing any pain, just the right one. I’ve worn these shoes for a month without any problem and this pain just started out of nowhere. Does anyone have any idea of what might be causing this and how to resolve this problem?

This is the link to a photo to show where exactly the pain is. https://ibb.co/c185Ho

That’s a pretty common problem, with any shoe that is quite rigid. You will tend to either naturally pronate ( roll your foot inwards) or supinate ( roll your foot outwards ) if you’re right foot dominant ( most people are ) the tendency will be to Supinate the right foot. In a stiff shoe, this will cause pressure to bear on the pinky joint. Try and actively roll the foot inwards, when it happens, for a few miles, and the pressure should ease up a bit. Also, if you’re using cleats ( I’m presuming you are) every now and again, actively lift your toes upwards in the shoe, as you’ll ( unconsciously) be bunching your toes, during hard pedalling. You can also help it by pulling up more than pushing down, to turn the cranks, for a while, if your feet get a bit achey. Getting a proper bike fitting done ( cleat position included ) may also help.

Thank you for letting me know what the problem is. Yes, I’m using cleats and I’ve already had 3/4 bike fits. I have custom insoles and the arch seems to be quite high. Maybe that is causing the foot to roll out more and hence cause the pinky to hit/touch the shoe?

milemuncher1

Mtbrider123 wrote:

Thank you for letting me know what the problem is. Yes, I’m using cleats and I’ve already had 3/4 bike fits. I have custom insoles and the arch seems to be quite high. Maybe that is causing the foot to roll out more and hence cause the pinky to hit/touch the shoe?

Absolutely right. If you have a high arch, the foot will naturally be in a position where the toes bunch up to a far greater degree than a lower arch. This will exacerbate the Supination when the heel lifts as well.

imafatman

Milemuncher1 wrote:

Mtbrider123 wrote:

Thank you for letting me know what the problem is. Yes, I’m using cleats and I’ve already had 3/4 bike fits. I have custom insoles and the arch seems to be quite high. Maybe that is causing the foot to roll out more and hence cause the pinky to hit/touch the shoe?

Absolutely right. If you have a high arch, the foot will naturally be in a position where the toes bunch up to a far greater degree than a lower arch. This will exacerbate the Supination when the heel lifts as well.

Well to throw a spanner in the works, having fitted arch support insoles my foot stopped hurting on the outside where previously my foot was rolling over.

The extra arch support whilst seemingly to roll your foot over can actually support your foot so that it doesn't roll over as much.

milemuncher1

imafatman wrote:

Milemuncher1 wrote:

Mtbrider123 wrote:

Thank you for letting me know what the problem is. Yes, I’m using cleats and I’ve already had 3/4 bike fits. I have custom insoles and the arch seems to be quite high. Maybe that is causing the foot to roll out more and hence cause the pinky to hit/touch the shoe?

Absolutely right. If you have a high arch, the foot will naturally be in a position where the toes bunch up to a far greater degree than a lower arch. This will exacerbate the Supination when the heel lifts as well.

Well to throw a spanner in the works, having fitted arch support insoles my foot stopped hurting on the outside where previously my foot was rolling over.

The extra arch support whilst seemingly to roll your foot over can actually support your foot so that it doesn't roll over as much.

That’s very true, if the material in the arch support is pliant enough for your foot. It’s horses for courses, and the material in one person’s support may be too soft / too hard for it to work the same for someone else.

mtbrider123

Thank you for your replies. So, 1. The insoles are very stiff (the brand is Sidas), 2. I’ve tried putting the original insole (soft one) and my pinky toe still hurts whenever it hits the side (when I move my foot). 3. I’ve tried my old shoes (sidi shot) with custom insoles and my pinky toe doesn’t hurt even when it touches the side of the shoe.

The toe hurts if I press it with my finger, so my conclusion is that the side of the Mavic shoe is just too hard, and the only solution is to switch back to my old sidi shoes, do you agree with me?

mtbrider123

Milemuncher1 wrote:

imafatman wrote:

Milemuncher1 wrote:

Mtbrider123 wrote:

Thank you for letting me know what the problem is. Yes, I’m using cleats and I’ve already had 3/4 bike fits. I have custom insoles and the arch seems to be quite high. Maybe that is causing the foot to roll out more and hence cause the pinky to hit/touch the shoe?

Absolutely right. If you have a high arch, the foot will naturally be in a position where the toes bunch up to a far greater degree than a lower arch. This will exacerbate the Supination when the heel lifts as well.

I got these insoles about 2 years ago because I had foot paint (in the middle) with the sidi shot shoes. No pain with the insoles, so they definitely work.



Well to throw a spanner in the works, having fitted arch support insoles my foot stopped hurting on the outside where previously my foot was rolling over.

The extra arch support whilst seemingly to roll your foot over can actually support your foot so that it doesn't roll over as much.

That’s very true, if the material in the arch support is pliant enough for your foot. It’s horses for courses, and the material in one person’s support may be too soft / too hard for it to work the same for someone else.

milemuncher1

Mtbrider123 wrote:

Thank you for your replies. So, 1. The insoles are very stiff (the brand is Sidas), 2. I’ve tried putting the original insole (soft one) and my pinky toe still hurts whenever it hits the side (when I move my foot). 3. I’ve tried my old shoes (sidi shot) with custom insoles and my pinky toe doesn’t hurt even when it touches the side of the shoe.

The toe hurts if I press it with my finger, so my conclusion is that the side of the Mavic shoe is just too hard, and the only solution is to switch back to my old sidi shoes, do you agree with me?

I concur.

on-yer-bike

So someone does spend £900 on cycling shoes! Shame they didnt work out...

milemuncher1

on-yer-bike wrote:

So someone does spend £900 on cycling shoes! Shame they didnt work out...

Christ!! 900 notes :shock: I’d be putting up with a bit of discomfort, or having my toe removed if it was me

milemuncher1

I see they have “removable booties” maybe there’s a more comfortable option with a different ‘bootie’.

imafatman

Is there a difference in stack height between the two shoes?

darkhairedlord

Milemuncher1 wrote:

on-yer-bike wrote:

So someone does spend £900 on cycling shoes! Shame they didnt work out...

Christ!! 900 notes :shock: I’d be putting up with a bit of discomfort, or having my toe removed if it was me

Mavic should send one of Pinnos pop up girls to suck it better.

mtbrider123

Milemuncher1 wrote:

I see they have “removable booties” maybe there’s a more comfortable option with a different ‘bootie’.

Nah, no other bootie, just the original one.

mtbrider123

imafatman wrote:

Is there a difference in stack height between the two shoes?

No... it looks like the problem can’t be solved as the shoe is just too hard.

pinno

darkhairedlord wrote:

Milemuncher1 wrote:

on-yer-bike wrote:

So someone does spend £900 on cycling shoes! Shame they didnt work out...

Christ!! 900 notes :shock: I’d be putting up with a bit of discomfort, or having my toe removed if it was me

Mavic should send one of Pinnos pop up girls to suck it better.

I've just noticed this. The was a post from the good old bad days.

imposter2.0

Heartwarming to know that spending £900 on road shoes still guarantees absolutely nothing. Also worth chuckling over the fact that Milemuncher is now on his tenth different user account since last June...