hunt or prime wheelset ? much difference ?

sibike
sibike Posts: 257
edited June 2018 in Road buying advice
I am Looking to upgrade the wheelset on my boardman pro . At the moment the 2 sets below are on my list but not sure if they're basically the same wheels or which is the better brand to go with . Have a look if you have a spare minute and let me know your opinions . I would consider a different set if you have another option .

https://www.huntbikewheels.com/collecti ... eep-22wide

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/prim ... prod142944

I did just notice these wheels (below) but is the extra £250 really worth it as im no wiggins on a bike

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/prim ... prod142948

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  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    I choose neither personally but the hunts are likely to be better built.

    Sometimes what you pay extra for is hidden.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • StillGoing
    StillGoing Posts: 5,211
    My wife has the Prime RP38 disc set on her bike and they're actually pretty good, especially for the money.
    I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.
  • joebristol
    joebristol Posts: 327
    If you want to save money even more the Hunt Mason X Hunt 4seasons road wheelset is only £299 and only weighs about 100grams more than the Hunt Awro Lite.

    I bought the 4seasons for my Caad12 disc and so far so good. Their crash replacement scheme gives you 30% off replacement parts too - unfortunately I mangled a rim shortly after I got them.

    I think they have middle of the road Novatech hubs, not sure what the rims are. So they aren’t bling, but for the money they seem good value.
  • ds2288
    ds2288 Posts: 36
    Both are Far East rims built up locally (for the Hunt's, not sure about the Prime's). I'd say you may get better pre and post sale service from Hunt, and their rim widths are far better than the Prime's (if you can fit them in your frame).
  • StillGoing
    StillGoing Posts: 5,211
    ds2288 wrote:
    Both are Far East rims built up locally (for the Hunt's, not sure about the Prime's). I'd say you may get better pre and post sale service from Hunt, and their rim widths are far better than the Prime's (if you can fit them in your frame).

    The Prime widths are 25mm external and 16.5mm internal. Come with all fitments for skewer or Thru axle and with valves and extensions ready for tubeless. You've got CRC and Wiggle back up with warranty claims should you need to.
    I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.
  • ds2288
    ds2288 Posts: 36
    philthy3 wrote:
    ds2288 wrote:
    Both are Far East rims built up locally (for the Hunt's, not sure about the Prime's). I'd say you may get better pre and post sale service from Hunt, and their rim widths are far better than the Prime's (if you can fit them in your frame).

    The Prime widths are 25mm external and 16.5mm internal. Come with all fitments for skewer or Thru axle and with valves and extensions ready for tubeless. You've got CRC and Wiggle back up with warranty claims should you need to.

    The Hunts are 18mm internal which gives the tyre a better profile. 16.5 is a joke tbh compared to the rest of the competition. If you want Prime wheels I’d wait till they bring out new models with 17+mm internal.
  • N0bodyOfTheGoat
    N0bodyOfTheGoat Posts: 6,078
    For what it's worth, I took delivery of a set of the Hunt Aero Light Disc yesterday morning, after driving myself even madder over the last few months with increasing intensity.

    They were at the very top of my limited budget and I went around in many circles asking myself if the competition from other wheelsets I was aware of were a better deal, from memory in low to high price order...
    Fulcrum 5 DB
    CRC custom Hope RS4 hub build (taking BC discount into consideration)
    Alex CXD4
    CERO ARD23
    Hunt x Mason 4 Season
    Prime Pro Disc
    Borg 22 (for the 28 spoke variety)
    Campag Zonda Disc
    Hunt Aero Light Disc

    I can't tell you how they ride compared to the stock Fulcrum Racing 77DBs yet because I'm expecting delivery of a set of Ultegra SM-RT800 centrelock rotors today and I couldn't be faffed to fit the 6-bolt adaptors to install the Fulcrum rotors. :lol:

    But they weight >< less than 1500g with the bolt-thru adaptors and rim tape, after removing the random loop of ~30cm of branded sticky paper and the card that tells me Wang(?) put my set together. With the 85g Vittoria latex tubes and the ~260g Conti GP4000 S2s I've got to fit plus the ~127g rotors and ~300g cassette, the Hunts are going to be ~700g lighter than the current Fulcrum setup.

    If I hadn't bought the Conti tyres and latex tubes last week, I might have been more tempted to pay the extra ~£100 for Hunt to fit a set of tubeless tyres, but that cherry will have to be popped another time.

    Looking forward to riding them either later today or tomorrow, depending upon the rotor arrival. :twisted:
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    2017 Cube Attain GTC Pro Disc 2016
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  • warrior4life
    warrior4life Posts: 925
    ds2288 wrote:
    philthy3 wrote:
    ds2288 wrote:
    Both are Far East rims built up locally (for the Hunt's, not sure about the Prime's). I'd say you may get better pre and post sale service from Hunt, and their rim widths are far better than the Prime's (if you can fit them in your frame).

    The Prime widths are 25mm external and 16.5mm internal. Come with all fitments for skewer or Thru axle and with valves and extensions ready for tubeless. You've got CRC and Wiggle back up with warranty claims should you need to.

    The Hunts are 18mm internal which gives the tyre a better profile. 16.5 is a joke tbh compared to the rest of the competition. If you want Prime wheels I’d wait till they bring out new models with 17+mm internal.

    Pretty sure Hunt are assembled in the far east (Taiwan) as they came off the same production line as the wheels made by my last employer.
    They're hand build, they have a weight side loded on the hubs and them get trued, they go through this process three times and the build quality is very high.
    It really isnt rocket science with wheels. The biggest issue seems to be warping of brake tracks on carbon rims due to heat build up and the occasional spoke coming loose.

    You hear about freehub and bearing issues but this I would put down to inexperienced buyers. The hubs are very minimalst with very few seals so they need servicing. You need two allen kets and you can strip a hub and wipe it out.
    I've seen apparently "failed" freehubs come back, I've stripped them and they're packed with dirt and stink of degreaser.
    Strip them, clean them and put them back together.
    I'm sure both wheel sets are relatively similar. Ford or Vauxhall.
    I struggle to feel any difference bwteen Zipp 404's and Cero RC45's out on the road. I'm sure you'd be happy with Hunt or Prime as long as you occasionaly service the rear hub.
  • StillGoing
    StillGoing Posts: 5,211
    ds2288 wrote:
    philthy3 wrote:
    ds2288 wrote:
    Both are Far East rims built up locally (for the Hunt's, not sure about the Prime's). I'd say you may get better pre and post sale service from Hunt, and their rim widths are far better than the Prime's (if you can fit them in your frame).

    The Prime widths are 25mm external and 16.5mm internal. Come with all fitments for skewer or Thru axle and with valves and extensions ready for tubeless. You've got CRC and Wiggle back up with warranty claims should you need to.

    The Hunts are 18mm internal which gives the tyre a better profile. 16.5 is a joke tbh compared to the rest of the competition. If you want Prime wheels I’d wait till they bring out new models with 17+mm internal.

    Harsh. My wife is running 25mm Conti GP4000s II and they certainly aren't bulging over the rim edge. There's barely any bulge with the 25mm external rim width.

    Personally, I'm running Mavic Cosmic Pro Carbon UST with a 19mm internal width and 25mm external, but i'd have no problem running the Prime wheels.
    I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.
  • sibike
    sibike Posts: 257
    Thanks for the replies , some great pointers and I will definitely look into how to clean a freehub as I have never done this before .
    NitrousOxide - please post an update on how you find your new wheels after you've tried them .
  • I don't get Hunt.

    They seem to be somehow riding on the crest of a wave for what seem to be well built, but fairly generic Far Eastern rims, hubs and spokes.

    Any reason why buying an equally generic set of wheels at half the price and, if desired- getting my local world class wheelbuilder to "proof", them at a reasonable price wouldn't result in an equally as good wheelset?
  • Camcycle1974
    Camcycle1974 Posts: 1,356
    I don't get Hunt.

    They seem to be somehow riding on the crest of a wave for what seem to be well built, but fairly generic Far Eastern rims, hubs and spokes.

    Any reason why buying an equally generic set of wheels at half the price and, if desired- getting my local world class wheelbuilder to "proof", them at a reasonable price wouldn't result in an equally as good wheelset?
    I agree. The Cycle Clinic would build you a set of wheels on the same kinlin rim with a guarantee for the life of the wheels for a lot less money. He also does carbon wheels if that floats your boat.
  • Anyone have an opinion on Profile Design 38/twenty four disc brake clinchers while we're here ? Know a guy who has a bike shop selling some new ones for 600 for the pair as he's getting new stuff. Think internal is 17mm and weight around 1600g. Clincher only I believe so can't do tubeless ...