Vote: Extra $110 for Full carbon frame worth it??
Kinchi
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I'm buying a bike...one has Ultegra and an aluminum frame with carbon fork, weighs 21 lb. The other is basically the same but has Shimano 105 and is full carbon, weighing in at 19 lb. I'm a beginner rider but hoping this bike will last 20 years. Would you spend the extra $110!?? I weigh 125 lb if that makes a difference. I don't race, never will, but might like to be able to keep up with group rides.
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What bikes are they? Seem quite heavy for road bikes - especially the full Carbon one....0
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Ali
Better groupset, money saving, you'll save 2lbs when you upgrade the wheels and tyres when they wear out.
The only thing that will last 20 years is the frame and forks though.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
If the 105 is the new R7000 I'd probably go carbon F&F with 105.0
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https://www.diamondback.com/airen-4-carbonJoebristol wrote:What bikes are they? Seem quite heavy for road bikes - especially the full Carbon one....
https://www.diamondback.com/airen-2-test-3943
Diamondback Airen 2 vs Diamondback Airen Carbon 40 -
Matthewfalle wrote:Ali
Better groupset, money saving, you'll save 2lbs when you upgrade the wheels and tyres when they wear out.
The only thing that will last 20 years is the frame and forks though.
So your vote is the carbon version?0 -
Kinchi wrote:
https://www.diamondback.com/airen-4-carbonJoebristol wrote:What bikes are they? Seem quite heavy for road bikes - especially the full Carbon one....
https://www.diamondback.com/airen-2-test-3943
Diamondback Airen 2 vs Diamondback Airen Carbon 4
So both of those bikes have the previous generation groupsets0 -
MrB123 wrote:
Ok they are the previous versions of Ultegra and 105 you mentioned. Bike is 2017. So now what's your vote? Thanks!!!0 -
FYI at my local shop the price of the Airen 2 is $1180 and the Carbon 4 is $1290.0
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Ah, the hydraulic disc brakes / wheels explain the weights.
If those are all that's on your shortlist, go for the Ultegra / alu frame. You're getting much better / more comfortable / less ugly STI levers.0 -
keef66 wrote:Ah, the hydraulic disc brakes / wheels explain the weights.
If those are all that's on your shortlist, go for the Ultegra / alu frame. You're getting much better / more comfortable / less ugly STI levers.
Should the hydraulic disc brakes not be on my list? The bike shop guys I've spoken with seem to think they are much better than mechanical disc brakes in terms of maintenance/repair? I just know I want brakes that feel easy to pull. I won't be riding in gravel or rain.0 -
If you won’t be riding in rain / wet weather than rim brakes will get you a lighter frame / wheels and other spec for the money.
In the dry I’d say my 105 discs have a little more power than my old Sram Apex rim brakes, but it’s not night and day different.
It’s the wet where discs really come into their own.0 -
Joebristol wrote:If you won’t be riding in rain / wet weather than rim brakes will get you a lighter frame / wheels and other spec for the money.
In the dry I’d say my 105 discs have a little more power than my old Sram Apex rim brakes, but it’s not night and day different.
It’s the wet where discs really come into their own.
Agree rim would be sufficient and lighter...the trouble is i am not buying a custom built bike. A bike with rim brakes also usually has a sora groupset and maybe even an alluminum fork. Is that what you would suggest? Ideally id like to find the sweet spot for value with good enough components that i dont want to end up upgrading the bike in 5 years.0 -
Who is Ali?Matthewfalle wrote:Ali0 -
No idea.darkhairedlord wrote:
Who is Ali?Matthewfalle wrote:Ali
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Kinchi wrote:Joebristol wrote:If you won’t be riding in rain / wet weather than rim brakes will get you a lighter frame / wheels and other spec for the money.
In the dry I’d say my 105 discs have a little more power than my old Sram Apex rim brakes, but it’s not night and day different.
It’s the wet where discs really come into their own.
Agree rim would be sufficient and lighter...the trouble is i am not buying a custom built bike. A bike with rim brakes also usually has a sora groupset and maybe even an alluminum fork. Is that what you would suggest? Ideally id like to find the sweet spot for value with good enough components that i dont want to end up upgrading the bike in 5 years.
Not sure why you think that about rim brake bikes. They are available at all price points and with all levels of groupset right up to the most expensive bikes of all.
You will generally pay a premium for hydro discs, so for the same money you may well find a rim braked bike with better spec, perhaps a better groupset or wheels.0 -
Kinchi wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Ali
Better groupset, money saving, you'll save 2lbs when you upgrade the wheels and tyres when they wear out.
The only thing that will last 20 years is the frame and forks though.
So your vote is the carbon version?
No. Aluminum.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
If you're not planning on riding in the wet I would say rim brakes are fine. Given the prices of your hydro disc models, you should be able to find a 2017 bike with full carbon frame and fork and Ultegra 6800 with rim brakes for the same money, no?
OK, we're in the UK, but my son did just that a month ago and got a £1600 bike for £10000 -
keef66 wrote:If you're not planning on riding in the wet I would say rim brakes are fine. Given the prices of your hydro disc models, you should be able to find a 2017 bike with full carbon frame and fork and Ultegra 6800 with rim brakes for the same money, no?
OK, we're in the UK, but my son did just that a month ago and got a £1600 bike for £1000
I wish! Maybe I don't know where to look! When I look at performance bicycle and trek, everything scales up together. For example, on the Trek Domane, to get rim brakes, you get sora.0
