Cymru/Galles 2020?
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RichN95 wrote:A big rumour on the Cycling Podcast of the Giro starting in Cardiff in 2020. Something I've advocated for a long time due to strong Italian links to South Wales (and me living here). I'll have to ask my contacts when I see them.
2020 makes far more sense to me.
They are supposedly on the 2019 shortlist, but after an away game, the RCS normally bring the race home for the following year. I see the latest rumour for next year is Marseilles."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
insiders at the county council were saying health and safety exec had been told by the emergency services that it would blow their budget to be able to do the necessary. nat assem can't afford to fund due to Brexit and EU money being taken away.
HOWEVER, Cymbran & Caerwent County Councils have got a proposal together using a pot of old money from a defunct project to regenerate some old military training ground and its been very excitedly looked at by yhe Giro organisers - they see it as potential for annother Tour ee Yorkshire.
Needless to say, Cymbran are well excited. Start in Cymbran, big long loop, end in Caerwent.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
Good stuff0
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Are the two councils interested in replicating the TdY as well then? (Just interested from your post).
Be interesting to see if there's been any quantification of the benefits the TdY has brought to Yorkshire. Certainly shows the place in a good light.0 -
Interesting insight MF. I don't suppose the budget has anything to do with that racetrack they were building?
Genuine question - I can't remember what happened to it in the end. There was some politics around F1 using it or not or something.0 -
I think MF may be taking the p!ss as neither of those Council's actually exist!
As for the race track it was finally realised that the promoters had hoodwinked the Welsh Government into spending money on something that had no chance of succeeding commercially and it all collapsed when they belatedly refused to put more public money into it.0 -
Cardiff would be good for a prologue.
Rhigos, Bwlch, Hoel Senni for stage 2, though perhaps more TdF ish than Giro.
Abergeswyn is sort of Giro style.0 -
florerider wrote:Cardiff would be good for a prologue.
Rhigos, Bwlch, Hoel Senni for stage 2, though perhaps more TdF ish than Giro.
Abergeswyn is sort of Giro style.
All a bit urban though other than Heol Senni. If Wales forks out for some stages they'd presumably want to show off the countryside. A nice stage based in Swansea taking in the Gower and Carmarthenshire and then another out of Cardiff and into the Beacons as quickly as possible would do the trick (assuming the north is a bit too far away and that mid Wales, which has perfect cycling territory, is lacking in stage towns). But as it's the Giro then a stage taking in the Devil's Staircase and Bwlch y Groes would be favourite!0 -
Pross wrote:I think MF may be taking the p!ss as neither of those Council's actually exist!
As for the race track it was finally realised that the promoters had hoodwinked the Welsh Government into spending money on something that had no chance of succeeding commercially and it all collapsed when they belatedly refused to put more public money into it.
Negatron - do some research. Lower Rye area of Monmouthshire County Council covered by Carwaent Comm Council. Apologies for confusion. - tried to simplify it to much!
It's well known around here that the pot of money was going to be taken back by the nat. assem to fund some other projects in an attempt to rejuvenate the area but this was seen as potential long shot. Racetrack funding went but everyone has been stuffed by the Brexit vote because all the farmers are about to lose their subsidies and workers.
But hey, blue passports, etc. But that's for another thread.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
bobmcstuff wrote:Are the two councils interested in replicating the TdY as well then? (Just interested from your post).
Be interesting to see if there's been any quantification of the benefits the TdY has brought to Yorkshire. Certainly shows the place in a good light.
It's just a big piece of paper with "It's reet good" written on it0 -
Pross wrote:florerider wrote:Cardiff would be good for a prologue.
Rhigos, Bwlch, Hoel Senni for stage 2, though perhaps more TdF ish than Giro.
Abergeswyn is sort of Giro style.
All a bit urban though other than Heol Senni. If Wales forks out for some stages they'd presumably want to show off the countryside. A nice stage based in Swansea taking in the Gower and Carmarthenshire and then another out of Cardiff and into the Beacons as quickly as possible would do the trick (assuming the north is a bit too far away and that mid Wales, which has perfect cycling territory, is lacking in stage towns). But as it's the Giro then a stage taking in the Devil's Staircase and Bwlch y Groes would be favourite!
Cardiff to Aber? That could be made very Giroish, hard, long and probably raining.0 -
Not if Aber is short for Abercynon0
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TakeTheHighRoad wrote:bobmcstuff wrote:Are the two councils interested in replicating the TdY as well then? (Just interested from your post).
Be interesting to see if there's been any quantification of the benefits the TdY has brought to Yorkshire. Certainly shows the place in a good light.
It's just a big piece of paper with "It's reet good" written on it
£60m per year according to the people who make these things up.
I had a weekend in the Yorkshire dales a couple of weeks ago. The number of cyclists out on the Friday was staggering."Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0 -
Pross wrote:All a bit urban though other than Heol Senni. If Wales forks out for some stages they'd presumably want to show off the countryside. A nice stage based in Swansea taking in the Gower and Carmarthenshire and then another out of Cardiff and into the Beacons as quickly as possible would do the trick (assuming the north is a bit too far away and that mid Wales, which has perfect cycling territory, is lacking in stage towns). But as it's the Giro then a stage taking in the Devil's Staircase and Bwlch y Groes would be favourite!
Lacking in stage towns - also massively lacking in accommodation- unless the teams/organisation/media all fancy staying in farmhouse B&Bs or camp sites.
Same issue in Carmarthenshire with the ToB start...0 -
What's up with a tent? Plenty of fields around.Imposter wrote:Lacking in stage towns - also massively lacking in accommodation- unless the teams/organisation/media all fancy staying in farmhouse B&Bs.
Same issue in Carmarthenshire with the ToB start...
I'm sure the pros won't mind a bit
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Nice 300 km stage up to Bangor following the outward leg of the Bryan Chapman Memorial?left the forum March 20230
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Pross wrote:I think MF may be taking the p!ss as neither of those Council's actually exist!
As for the race track it was finally realised that the promoters had hoodwinked the Welsh Government into spending money on something that had no chance of succeeding commercially and it all collapsed when they belatedly refused to put more public money into it.
Cymbran is a figment of his imagination as well!0 -
narbs wrote:Cymbran is a figment of his imagination as well!
He's right you know..0 -
As a motorsport fan, the Welsh Assembly provide the backing for the UK round of the WRC; Rally of GB......I imagine they can't back 2 major sporting events. And as cycling surely provides a 'bigger bang for buck' than rallying, you would think backing the start of the Giro would be a no brainer?All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."0
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Living in Cardiff I know we can back more than one sporting event, and frequently have done. The Champions League final was in Cardiff last year. The Volvo Ocean Race is in Cardiff this week. The Speedway event is surprisingly popular. There's Six Nations, Test Cricket, Premiership football next season, final stage of Tour of Britain etc. Your mud cars barely register for us (sorry)AndyRAC wrote:As a motorsport fan, the Welsh Assembly provide the backing for the UK round of the WRC; Rally of GB......I imagine they can't back 2 major sporting events. And as cycling surely provides a 'bigger bang for buck' than rallying, you would think backing the start of the Giro would be a no brainer?Twitter: @RichN950
