Genesis Equilibrium Disk 2018 tyre and 'guard clearance

DWM1980
DWM1980 Posts: 27
edited June 2018 in Road buying advice
Hi All

I am considering an Equilibrium Disk to replace my recently written off Croix de Fer. I would like to run 28mm tyres and mudguards.

I read a number of conflicting reports about tyre and mudguard clearances - some say 25mm is the max with mudguards, others say 28mm fit easily and others say something in between! From what I have read newer frames have more clearance than older models and the disc frames have better clearance than the rim braked equivalent. The guy in the LBS thinks it will be fine, but I would like other views.

If anyone has a 2017 or 2018 frame, could you please let me know your experiences on this.

Many thanks

Dave

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  • londoncommuter
    londoncommuter Posts: 1,550
    Not quite what you've asked but I've got a 2016 which I think is the same.

    Came with 27mm Challenge tyres and they work with no problems at all with SKS Chromoplastic P35 guards.
  • DWM1980
    DWM1980 Posts: 27
    londoncommuter wrote:
    Not quite what you've asked but I've got a 2016 which I think is the same.

    Came with 27mm Challenge tyres and they work with no problems at all with SKS Chromoplastic P35 guards.

    Sounds promising - thanks for your response.

    What do you think of the bike in general?

    Cheers

    Dave
  • londoncommuter
    londoncommuter Posts: 1,550
    It's the 2016 30 I've got with the 105 hydraulics and 725 steel. It is lovely and smooth although I'm not 100% sure yet whether that's the wider tyres or steel frame.

    On the negative side, it weighs a ton, the tyres have zero grip and the Fulcrum freehub and wheel bearings have been shocking. Not really issues with the frame as such though and I imagine you've got different tyre/wheel specs.

    I see you're a Genesis owner already (or were pre-taxi!) but watch the sizing. The frame comes up quite large and oddly my small has a 110mm stem and 44cm (I think) bars.
  • DWM1980
    DWM1980 Posts: 27
    londoncommuter wrote:
    It's the 2016 30 I've got with the 105 hydraulics and 725 steel. It is lovely and smooth although I'm not 100% sure yet whether that's the wider tyres or steel frame.

    Sounds lovely.
    londoncommuter wrote:
    On the negative side, it weighs a ton, the tyres have zero grip and the Fulcrum freehub and wheel bearings have been shocking. Not really issues with the frame as such though and I imagine you've got different tyre/wheel specs.

    They do appear to be hefty things, but it will weigh less than the Croix de Fer! I'm hopefully building up a frameset using bits I can salvage from the old bike plus a new pair of Hunt wheels.
    londoncommuter wrote:
    I see you're a Genesis owner already (or were pre-taxi!) but watch the sizing. The frame comes up quite large and oddly my small has a 110mm stem and 44cm (I think) bars.

    I'm 6'5" so by default always have to get the largest size available! The current XL has a very similar geometry to my old 60cm 2015 Croix.

    Cheers

    Dave
  • RyanB
    RyanB Posts: 116
    Another relatively happy Equilibrium owner here.

    I've swapped my tyres out for Clement Strada LGG 28s. I've got Mk3 Crud Road Racers on 12 months of the year with absolutely no issues.

    The frames definitely size up big. I'm quite short so I bought small, but I still I had to swap my stem out from 100mm to an 80mm and go for an in-line seatpost.

    I bought in late 2016, so it came with 105 and Trp-HyRd brakes, which are just ok.

    The bearings in the Fulcrum wheels were appalling however, so I got new wheels built, and included a Son 28 dynamo in the front. And just to add to the weight, a Brooks Swift saddle.
    But it is my audax bike, so its all about the masochism I suppose.

    Lovely comfortable frame though.
  • the_jackalcp
    the_jackalcp Posts: 276
    I also have a 2016 that I use for commuting and winter riding.

    It's a nice ride but as mentioned a bit on the heavy side ( my other bike is very light though). I run full mudguards with 28c vredestein Xtreme tyres front and back. The front occasionally catches debris when the road is very dirty otherwise I've not had any issues. The rear has loads of room.

    Would recommend hydraulics if budget allows. I also have spyres which are fine, but they simply arent hydraulics.
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  • DWM1980
    DWM1980 Posts: 27
    Hi All

    Just thought I would update this should anyone else want clarification.

    I picked the bike up last week and there is plenty of clearance. I am using 28mm Michelin Pro 4 Endurance with Hunt 4 Season Gravel wheels (20mm internal width) - the tyre measures nearer 30mm and there are no issues.

    Cheers

    Dave
  • londoncommuter
    londoncommuter Posts: 1,550
    Did you do anything to treat the inside of the frame to prevent rust? Mine came as a complete bike so a faff to strip it just to add protector but I'll probably get round to it whenever the bottom bracket needs replacing.
  • DWM1980
    DWM1980 Posts: 27
    londoncommuter wrote:
    Did you do anything to treat the inside of the frame to prevent rust? Mine came as a complete bike so a faff to strip it just to add protector but I'll probably get round to it whenever the bottom bracket needs replacing.

    I haven't this time. I did strip my Croix down when I got it and sprayed the insides of the tubes with something - not sure actually how effective it is. I will probably do as you suggested and have a go when the BB needs replacing.

    Cheers

    Dave

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