Poll - Which Groupset?

poptart242

Hypothetical, but I'd like to see what the forum thinks. I could be convinced to upgrade from 6800 to either. If you had the cash to do either, what would you do?

StillGoing

I wouldn't upgrade to old spec Di2 simply because i'd want the updated version eventually and the added features of it.

Moonbiker

Why is R8000 better for you than 6800?

http://road.cc/content/feature/223944-s ... -still-can

Dual pivot brakes with enough clearance for 28mm tyres might be important to you, for example, you might really like the new hoods and levers design of the R8000 dual control shifters, or you might be putting together a low-geared build for riding in the mountains and want R8000's ability to handle a 34-tooth sprocket.

If you’re not interested in those features, though, Ultegra 6800 remains an outstanding groupset.

So unless you need 28mm tyres or a 34t cog......

StillGoing

Moonbiker wrote:

Why is R8000 better for you than 6800?

http://road.cc/content/feature/223944-s ... -still-can

Dual pivot brakes with enough clearance for 28mm tyres might be important to you, for example, you might really like the new hoods and levers design of the R8000 dual control shifters, or you might be putting together a low-geared build for riding in the mountains and want R8000's ability to handle a 34-tooth sprocket.

If you’re not interested in those features, though, Ultegra 6800 remains an outstanding groupset.

So unless you need 28mm tyres or a 34t cog......

Hidden buttons, rear derailleur action, comes with the latest battery, so no need to change.

neeb

Campagnolo Chorus.

mrb123

https://www.merlincycles.com/shimano-du ... 60791.html

poptart242

Thanks for the input - it came about from a chat in the club, where another suggestion was to go 1x via SRAM Force.

I saw that email come through from Merlin too, MrB123 - what a bargain, Di2 was pretty vastly reduced too!

poptart242

Moonbiker wrote:

Why is R8000 better for you than 6800?

http://road.cc/content/feature/223944-s ... -still-can

Dual pivot brakes with enough clearance for 28mm tyres might be important to you, for example, you might really like the new hoods and levers design of the R8000 dual control shifters, or you might be putting together a low-geared build for riding in the mountains and want R8000's ability to handle a 34-tooth sprocket.

If you’re not interested in those features, though, Ultegra 6800 remains an outstanding groupset.

So unless you need 28mm tyres or a 34t cog......

I rode the Hardknott Pass on a 36 small ring and a 28 tooth cog at the weekend... I didn't enjoy it

Moonbiker

I just put a mtb rear mech on my cx bike after the 5700 one got ripped off & destroyed. Works prefect & can go to up to 36t @ rear if wanted.

JesseD

Di2 over mechanical everyday.

So for me it would be 6870 Di2 over R8000, however if I could get R8070 cheap then that would win out for me, in fact I need a new Di2 rear mech and the R8070 one plays with my 6870 shifters so I may just upgrade the rear mech first, then the front, then the shifters.

Matthewfalle

Force or Red mechanical. Both a billion times better ultegra.

diamonddog

Sram Force or Red, prefer the shifting.

alanparsons

No brainer.

https://www.merlincycles.com/shimano-du ... E2EALw_wcB

StillGoing

Matthewfalle wrote:

Force or Red mechanical. Both a billion times better ultegra.

That is an entirely subjective opinion and simply not fact. I'm a lifelong SRAM user having had Force 10 speed, Red 10 speed, Force 22 and still have Rival 22 on my winter/turbo bike. SRAM front shifting is not a match for Shimano in my opinion requiring far more force, although I do prefer the operation of rear shifting with SRAM mechanical over Shimano mechanical and not using the brake lever as a shift lever. If SRAM would improve their front mech operation and prevent the preference for plenty of owners to switch to a Shimano front derailleur, it might be different.

poptart242

Well this poll has *not* been conclusive in any way! Interesting to see everyone's viewpoints too, thanks all

timothyw

Not convinced it's worth upgrading to either from 6800, better to look at N+1 and decide what groupset to go on that I think....

singleton

I'd prefer mechanical to di2 (yes I've had both) but can't see that going to R8000 is worth the effort or money.

charlie_potatoes

Matthewfalle wrote:

Force or Red mechanical. Both a billion times better ultegra.