Help with which Endurance bike and sizing
wattdaffy
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Hi, I’m looking for some advice on which of these bikes looks best option. Sorry for the long post but I decided to add some background and bike geometry details to help get a recommendation.
I’m 72kg, 185cm height, long legs/short torso. I cycle around 100km during the week and then one or two 100-150km spins at weekends.
I recently got a proper bike fit done (knees were getting sore on long spins) and after the fitting I ended up with saddle much higher than I had originally with stem shortened to reduce reach. I can’t raise the bars any higher on my own bike and the current drop between saddle and bars is 120mm and my neck is now sore after every 80km/100km spin.
After some tweaks, my fitter told me all I can do now is change the bike.
My Current Bike, sram rival 10spd with Compact, 11/32
Saddle Height (mm) set at 830 (rail height 780)
Seat Tube (mm) 520
Seat Tube Angle 73
Head Tube Length (mm) 165
Head Angle 73
Effective Top Tube (mm) 570
Reach 397
Stack 565
Ratio: 1.42
Drop from saddle to bars is 120mm
I’ve some research and help from this forum I’ve narrowed my search down to these 3 carbon Endurance bikes with Ultegra with some differences in brakes/wheelsets with all coming in between £2200 - £2550. All 3 get very good reviews online so I’m sure any of them will be a big improvement.
If people know the 3 bikes and their geometry, which bike and size would be the most comfortable and help with my sore neck?
If all 3 are similar with no big difference between them comfort wise, which would you recommend on spec/value for money?
Trek Domane SLR 6 58 60
Saddle Rail Height (mm) 690-785 (close to limit) 710-805
Seat Tube (mm) 548 567
Seat Tube Angle 73 72.8
Head Tube Length (mm) 195 220
Head Angle 72 72.1
Effective Top Tube (mm) 567 579
Reach 380 383
Stack 611 632
Ratio: 1.6 1.65
Weight: 7.5kg
Option #1: I can get a 2017 model size 58 for £2200, mainly Ultegra with rim wheels/brakes with Bontrager Speed Stop brakes (not Ultegra). The Wheelset (Bontrager's tubeless-ready Affinity Comp) looks ok so probably won’t change these.
This bike in size 58 looks to be a very comfortable fit compared to my own bike (30mm longer head tube with slightly shorter reach) and I’m getting a large discount over 2018 model which is same frame. I can get this in my LBS but haven’t test ridden it yet.
Canyon Endurace CF SL 8.0 L
Saddle Height(mm), not rail ht 752-852
Seat Tube (mm) 552
Seat Tube Angle 73.5
Head Tube Length (mm) 184
Head Angle 73
Effective Top Tube (mm) 568
Reach 389
Stack 604
Ratio: 1.55
Weight: 7.6kg
Option #2: I can get the Canyon online for £2270, it has more complete set of Ultegra with disc brakes and bit better wheelset than others. This does look very good value but with downside of not being able to ride it beforehand and get upfront fitting.
Cannondale Synapse 56 58
Saddle Rail Height (mm) max 790 max 870
Seat Tube (mm) 520 550
Seat Tube Angle 73.5 73
Head Tube Length (mm) 173 197
Head Angle 73 73
Effective Top Tube (mm) 561 579
Reach 386 393
Stack 590 610
Ratio: 1.52 1.55
Weight expected at around 7.6kg after wheelset upgrade
Option #3: I can get a new 2018 model for £2200, new Ultegra with new lighter frame with disc brakes with Aksium wheelset that I’ll sell and upgrade to 1550g DCR wheelset so brings total to £2550. I can get this in another LBS but haven’t test ridden it yet.
Option #4: I can get 2017 Di2 ex-demo model for £2300 with Aksium disc wheelset that I’ll swap as above so brings total to £2650. This is online so I can’t test ride this.
After much head-scratching, I’m leaning towards the 2018 Cannondale with the new frame and latest Ultegra even though this is one of the more expensive options but I’m bit torn between that and the Trek because of the rave reviews on comfort of this bike online. I’m open to recommendations however so any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks.
I’m 72kg, 185cm height, long legs/short torso. I cycle around 100km during the week and then one or two 100-150km spins at weekends.
I recently got a proper bike fit done (knees were getting sore on long spins) and after the fitting I ended up with saddle much higher than I had originally with stem shortened to reduce reach. I can’t raise the bars any higher on my own bike and the current drop between saddle and bars is 120mm and my neck is now sore after every 80km/100km spin.
After some tweaks, my fitter told me all I can do now is change the bike.
My Current Bike, sram rival 10spd with Compact, 11/32
Saddle Height (mm) set at 830 (rail height 780)
Seat Tube (mm) 520
Seat Tube Angle 73
Head Tube Length (mm) 165
Head Angle 73
Effective Top Tube (mm) 570
Reach 397
Stack 565
Ratio: 1.42
Drop from saddle to bars is 120mm
I’ve some research and help from this forum I’ve narrowed my search down to these 3 carbon Endurance bikes with Ultegra with some differences in brakes/wheelsets with all coming in between £2200 - £2550. All 3 get very good reviews online so I’m sure any of them will be a big improvement.
If people know the 3 bikes and their geometry, which bike and size would be the most comfortable and help with my sore neck?
If all 3 are similar with no big difference between them comfort wise, which would you recommend on spec/value for money?
Trek Domane SLR 6 58 60
Saddle Rail Height (mm) 690-785 (close to limit) 710-805
Seat Tube (mm) 548 567
Seat Tube Angle 73 72.8
Head Tube Length (mm) 195 220
Head Angle 72 72.1
Effective Top Tube (mm) 567 579
Reach 380 383
Stack 611 632
Ratio: 1.6 1.65
Weight: 7.5kg
Option #1: I can get a 2017 model size 58 for £2200, mainly Ultegra with rim wheels/brakes with Bontrager Speed Stop brakes (not Ultegra). The Wheelset (Bontrager's tubeless-ready Affinity Comp) looks ok so probably won’t change these.
This bike in size 58 looks to be a very comfortable fit compared to my own bike (30mm longer head tube with slightly shorter reach) and I’m getting a large discount over 2018 model which is same frame. I can get this in my LBS but haven’t test ridden it yet.
Canyon Endurace CF SL 8.0 L
Saddle Height(mm), not rail ht 752-852
Seat Tube (mm) 552
Seat Tube Angle 73.5
Head Tube Length (mm) 184
Head Angle 73
Effective Top Tube (mm) 568
Reach 389
Stack 604
Ratio: 1.55
Weight: 7.6kg
Option #2: I can get the Canyon online for £2270, it has more complete set of Ultegra with disc brakes and bit better wheelset than others. This does look very good value but with downside of not being able to ride it beforehand and get upfront fitting.
Cannondale Synapse 56 58
Saddle Rail Height (mm) max 790 max 870
Seat Tube (mm) 520 550
Seat Tube Angle 73.5 73
Head Tube Length (mm) 173 197
Head Angle 73 73
Effective Top Tube (mm) 561 579
Reach 386 393
Stack 590 610
Ratio: 1.52 1.55
Weight expected at around 7.6kg after wheelset upgrade
Option #3: I can get a new 2018 model for £2200, new Ultegra with new lighter frame with disc brakes with Aksium wheelset that I’ll sell and upgrade to 1550g DCR wheelset so brings total to £2550. I can get this in another LBS but haven’t test ridden it yet.
Option #4: I can get 2017 Di2 ex-demo model for £2300 with Aksium disc wheelset that I’ll swap as above so brings total to £2650. This is online so I can’t test ride this.
After much head-scratching, I’m leaning towards the 2018 Cannondale with the new frame and latest Ultegra even though this is one of the more expensive options but I’m bit torn between that and the Trek because of the rave reviews on comfort of this bike online. I’m open to recommendations however so any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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New stem. Pointy up ugly, but worth it to get to a comfortable position nailed before spending big money on the next stage.
Buy a new frame and move parts over.
You don't need a whole new bike. Although if you want one.......0 -
I'd ask my fitterI'm sorry you don't believe in miracles0
