Zipp/Mavic/Enve

applemac

Looking at some Mavic Cosmic Ultimate Tubular Wheelset (2014) and Zipp 303’s tubs (2010/13) and possible Enve 45/1.45 tubs anybody have any experience of them?

964cup

I have Enve 45 tubs on Chris King. Lovely wheels; light, fast rolling, bombproof hubs. Not what you'd call cheap; old-fashioned aeo profile; old-fashioned braking surface. They don't stop well in the wet. My club mate has some 303 tubs - not as light as the Enve set, but probably more aero in the more recent versions and certainly a better braking surface; I have some 2017 404 tubs and can testify to that at least. Note that both wheelsets have internal nipples, so you can only true them after removing the tub. This is a) a pain in the behind and b) a good argument for using tape. Haven't tried the Mavics.

applemac

Thanks for the information.

sloppyschleckonds

Wheel tech has moved on a bit since these were all the rage, unless you are getting at a really cheap price.
Wider rims, enhanced braking tracks and availability of quality tubeless tyres are more likely on shopping lists.

pippi_langsamer-2

I'd add Dura Ace C50 9000 Series tubular to your list too. Can pick them up for IRO £1700 new.