Changing from Campy to Shimano
drexel1975
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I am changing my groups from 10 speed Campy to 11 speed Shimano and have Mavic Ksyrium wheels. I have changed the free hub over which was pretty straightforward and pain free. The Mavic manual shows that 10 speed Shimano requires a spacer on the free hub before the cassette goes on whereas the 11 speed does not. The Shimano manual mentions that if fitting the HG 800-11 cassette then a 1.85mm spacer is required. I am using a R8000 cassette which does not mention any spacer. Which would be the correct method? I'm thinking no spacer is required unless I am using the HG800-11 cassette which I think is the 11-34 tooth cassette.
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Just pop the cassette on and do it up - any play pop a spacer in.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
Good move, Campag sucks, doesnt last long and requires far more maintenance, not to mention specific tools.0
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I assume this is a problem with debated answers. Makes sense about trying without a spacer and if there is play then pop a spacer in.
Making the switch as the shift lever snapped on my Veloce and it felt so cheap compared to the Ultegra gear on my other bike so went for full change rather than just upgrading the Veloce shifters.0 -
Vino'sGhost wrote:Good move, Campag sucks, doesnt last long and requires far more maintenance, not to mention specific tools.
Really? Care to explain? Might be able to save me from making a big mistake.1 -
drexel1975 wrote:I am changing my groups from 10 speed Campy to 11 speed Shimano and have Mavic Ksyrium wheels. I have changed the free hub over which was pretty straightforward and pain free. The Mavic manual shows that 10 speed Shimano requires a spacer on the free hub before the cassette goes on whereas the 11 speed does not. The Shimano manual mentions that if fitting the HG 800-11 cassette then a 1.85mm spacer is required. I am using a R8000 cassette which does not mention any spacer. Which would be the correct method? I'm thinking no spacer is required unless I am using the HG800-11 cassette which I think is the 11-34 tooth cassette.
No specer needed with R8000 cassette on Mavic freehub. You could have carried on using your Campag freehub with an 11sp cassette, it would have worked fine, although Campag cassettes are a bit pricey.1 -
proto wrote:Vino'sGhost wrote:Good move, Campag sucks, doesnt last long and requires far more maintenance, not to mention specific tools.
Really? Care to explain? Might be able to save me from making a big mistake.
Slightly tongue in cheek
. Though my personal experience is that Campagnolo does need a bit more fettling and isn’t as fit and forget. I prefer the hoods and width of Shimano but that’s personal choice . But some of the Campagnolo specific tools ooooft seriously pricey. Non of that matters if your lbs sorts your bike but I like to do my own.
Shimano Campagnolo SRAM all do the same thing Shimano is def easiest to get spares for. Buy what you like I get dura ace it’s expensive but lasts so for me it’s good value0 -
First dibs on your 10 speed campag bits please!!!Half man, Half bike1
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Vino'sGhost wrote:proto wrote:Vino'sGhost wrote:Good move, Campag sucks, doesnt last long and requires far more maintenance, not to mention specific tools.
Really? Care to explain? Might be able to save me from making a big mistake.
Slightly tongue in cheek. Though my personal experience is that Campagnolo does need a bit more fettling and isn’t as fit and forget. I prefer the hoods and width of Shimano but that’s personal choice . But some of the Campagnolo specific tools ooooft seriously pricey. Non of that matters if your lbs sorts your bike but I like to do my own.
Shimano Campagnolo SRAM all do the same thing Shimano is def easiest to get spares for. Buy what you like I get dura ace it’s expensive but lasts so for me it’s good value
Campag tools can be ridiculously expensive but cheaper alternatives are out there that are still good quality at a more realistic price - Pedro's, Park etc. I got an 11sp chain took off eBay for only a few quid and it does the job.0 -
The Campagnolo stuff was done. The shifters snapped and the cassette and gearing was needing changed. Sorry.Ridgerider wrote:First dibs on your 10 speed campag bits please!!!0 -
All that means is that you can sell it as 'vintage' Half man, Half bike0
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I have 2 pairs of kysrium wheels, one pair I bought around 1995 and hardly ever used, this pair have a campag cassette on. The second pair I bought in 2012 and on the rear one the rim has split, this pair has a shimano cassette on. Is it a straight forward job to just change the freehub body or do I need to buy an adaptor?
Thanks.0 -
Oh Ridgerider, you are such a cynic!
A bit off topic, but comparing newish Veloce to Ultegra isn't really fair, Veloce now being very entry level..
Oh well, that's my yearly post out of the way...
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Pippy aston wrote:I have 2 pairs of kysrium wheels, one pair I bought around 1995 and hardly ever used, this pair have a campag cassette on. The second pair I bought in 2012 and on the rear one the rim has split, this pair has a shimano cassette on. Is it a straight forward job to just change the freehub body or do I need to buy an adaptor?
Thanks.
Just try it and see - should just be two 5mm Allen keys to get the hubs off.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
Vino'sGhost wrote:Good move, Campag sucks, doesnt last long and requires far more maintenance, not to mention specific tools.
Used campag for 10 years and never had an issue.1 -
The_Wicker_Man wrote:Vino'sGhost wrote:Good move, Campag sucks, doesnt last long and requires far more maintenance, not to mention specific tools.
Used campag for 10 years and never had an issue.
I think the chances are that you have never had to change the bearings on a powertorque chainset.1 -
Vino'sGhost wrote:proto wrote:Vino'sGhost wrote:Good move, Campag sucks, doesnt last long and requires far more maintenance, not to mention specific tools.
Really? Care to explain? Might be able to save me from making a big mistake.
Slightly tongue in cheek. Though my personal experience is that Campagnolo does need a bit more fettling and isn’t as fit and forget. I prefer the hoods and width of Shimano but that’s personal choice . But some of the Campagnolo specific tools ooooft seriously pricey. Non of that matters if your lbs sorts your bike but I like to do my own.
Shimano Campagnolo SRAM all do the same thing Shimano is def easiest to get spares for. Buy what you like I get dura ace it’s expensive but lasts so for me it’s good value
Vino, you really are talking nonsense. Specialist tools? Less reliable? Hard getting spares? Do you get paid by Madison to spout this cr*p?1 -
lesfirth wrote:The_Wicker_Man wrote:Vino'sGhost wrote:Good move, Campag sucks, doesnt last long and requires far more maintenance, not to mention specific tools.
Used campag for 10 years and never had an issue.
I think the chances are that you have never had to change the bearings on a powertorque chainset.
No, but a friend of mine is a Campagnolo mechanic.0 -
The_Wicker_Man wrote:lesfirth wrote:The_Wicker_Man wrote:Vino'sGhost wrote:Good move, Campag sucks, doesnt last long and requires far more maintenance, not to mention specific tools.
Used campag for 10 years and never had an issue.
I think the chances are that you have never had to change the bearings on a powertorque chainset.
No, but a friend of mine is a Campagnolo mechanic.
a friend of mine builds part of the rockets at NASA. beat that.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
Matthewfalle wrote:The_Wicker_Man wrote:lesfirth wrote:The_Wicker_Man wrote:Vino'sGhost wrote:Good move, Campag sucks, doesnt last long and requires far more maintenance, not to mention specific tools.
Used campag for 10 years and never had an issue.
I think the chances are that you have never had to change the bearings on a powertorque chainset.
No, but a friend of mine is a Campagnolo mechanic.
a friend of mine builds part of the rockets at NASA. beat that.
I bet he can't change powertorque bearings. 0 -
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Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
lesfirth wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:The_Wicker_Man wrote:lesfirth wrote:The_Wicker_Man wrote:Vino'sGhost wrote:Good move, Campag sucks, doesnt last long and requires far more maintenance, not to mention specific tools.
Used campag for 10 years and never had an issue.
I think the chances are that you have never had to change the bearings on a powertorque chainset.
No, but a friend of mine is a Campagnolo mechanic.
a friend of mine builds part of the rockets at NASA. beat that.
I bet he can't change powertorque bearings. Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
Matthewfalle wrote:
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proto wrote:Vino'sGhost wrote:proto wrote:Vino'sGhost wrote:Good move, Campag sucks, doesnt last long and requires far more maintenance, not to mention specific tools.
Really? Care to explain? Might be able to save me from making a big mistake.
Slightly tongue in cheek. Though my personal experience is that Campagnolo does need a bit more fettling and isn’t as fit and forget. I prefer the hoods and width of Shimano but that’s personal choice . But some of the Campagnolo specific tools ooooft seriously pricey. Non of that matters if your lbs sorts your bike but I like to do my own.
Shimano Campagnolo SRAM all do the same thing Shimano is def easiest to get spares for. Buy what you like I get dura ace it’s expensive but lasts so for me it’s good value
Vino, you really are talking nonsense. Specialist tools? Less reliable? Hard getting spares? Do you get paid by Madison to spout this cr*p?
Ha I was slightly tongue in cheek as I said butttttt not without some nod to reality. I think all the top end group sets do the same thing but campag is definitely more expensive and isn’t as uniformly available.0 -
My real reason for running Campag goes back over 40 years when most of us youngters were riding Raleighs with steel chainsets and Huret gears. We dreamed of riding more exotic machines running Campagnolo but they were well out of our price range. When Suntour and Shimano gears became available we moved onto them, and perhaps got a hand-made frame to hang them on, but Campag were still seen as something to aspire to. Someone at the club turned up on a Campag-equipped Bianchi and I thought it was the most beautiful bike I had ever seen. It was especially exotic since the majority of serious cyclists at that time rode on frames built at their local frame builder, or if you wanted something special you might travel to one of the bigger name frame builders. Nobody rode imported bikes.
Anyway when I came back to cycling I never did the logical thing of trying different bikes to see what suited me, I simply went and bought myself a Campag-equipped Bianchi which I love.1 -
davebradswmb wrote:My real reason for running Campag goes back over 40 years when most of us youngters were riding Raleighs with steel chainsets and Huret gears. We dreamed of riding more exotic machines running Campagnolo but they were well out of our price range. When Suntour and Shimano gears became available we moved onto them, and perhaps got a hand-made frame to hang them on, but Campag were still seen as something to aspire to. Someone at the club turned up on a Campag-equipped Bianchi and I thought it was the most beautiful bike I had ever seen. It was especially exotic since the majority of serious cyclists at that time rode on frames built at their local frame builder, or if you wanted something special you might travel to one of the bigger name frame builders. Nobody rode imported bikes.
Anyway when I came back to cycling I never did the logical thing of trying different bikes to see what suited me, I simply went and bought myself a Campag-equipped Bianchi which I love.
Thats like loving the fat bird because youve never had better0 -
That's an incredibly naive as well as hurtful comment. But I see you were banned, so there we go.1
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Commenting and reviving a 5 year old thread is a bit weird as well.hoojammyflip said:That's an incredibly naive as well as hurtful comment. But I see you were banned, so there we go.
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Brave manVino'sGhost said:Good move, Campag sucks, doesnt last long and requires far more maintenance, not to mention specific tools.
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